Talk:Hurricane Erick

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December 19, 2025Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 17, 2025.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that no major hurricane has hit Mexico earlier in the year than Hurricane Erick since records began?

Should preparations and impacts be together or do we split it?

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Should we split it because I see in some hurricane articles, they have it together, while some have their own sections. Considering the potential impact of this major hurricane, should we have two sections for each one of them? StormHunterBryante5467⛈️ 02:14, 19 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

I imagine that there will ultimately be enough impacts information to set it off into its own section; no need to do so yet, however. Drdpw (talk) 02:20, 19 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Different satellite images

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When Erick attained category 2, its appearance was very memorable, a small pin hole eye, abundant rain bands and overall structure. Could someone add that image instead of erick as a tropical storm? 2806:2F0:7061:FCBF:B0C0:37CE:61C7:1F4 (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

The current image is of it as a Category 4 hurricane, not as a tropical storm. ✶Quxyz 23:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
The editor is referring to: File:Erick 2025-06-17 1920Z.jpg, which is an image of Erick as a tropical storm. Drdpw (talk) 23:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Listing of Prep and impact

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Should we not list Central America before Mexico because that region was impacted before Mexico? I would've made the change myself but I didn't want to mess with the images. Shmego2 (talk) 02:02, 21 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

I've made a WP:BOLD edit since the information was minimal. HurricaneEdgar 06:51, 21 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:09, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hurricane Erick on June 19
Hurricane Erick on June 19
  • ... that Hurricane Erick (pictured) was the earliest major hurricane to hit Mexico since records began?
    • Reviewed:
Created by HurricaneEdgar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

HurricaneEdgar 13:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC).Reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Article is new enough (created on 17 June) and long enough. Article is well-sourced and neutral. Hook is interesting and sourced. Picture is in the public domain. No QPQ needed since this is your first DYK nom. Nice work! Riley1012 (talk) 23:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

    Requested move 24 June 2025

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    The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    The result of the move request was: moved. WP:SNOW clearly WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (closed by non-admin page mover) HurricaneEdgar 01:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)Reply


    Hurricane Erick (2025)Hurricane Erick – Erick 2025 was the earliest major hurricane to make landfall in Mexico and caused much more damage and deaths than Erick 2013. A strong cat 3 to make landfall in June is much more notable than a cat 1 that stayed just offshore in July. Jpuxfrd (talk) 14:41, 24 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

    Support. Erick '25 has distinguished itself sufficiently to merit the move. Also, there's a fair chance the name John gets retired on account of this storm. Drdpw (talk) 15:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Support per above. Hurricane Wind and Fire (talk) 15:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Support per norm 210.3.50.94 (talk) 00:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Support per reasons provided by Jpuxfrd. CasualCycloneTracker180897 (talk) 00:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    GA Nom?

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    The article is mostly updated. @Drdpw 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 15:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

    Was there any aftermath? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 15:56, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Does the impact section need updating, as the TCR says nothing about the precursor tropical wave being responsible for deaths and damage in Central America, which we attribute to Erick based upon contemporaneous local sources? Drdpw (talk) 16:12, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    The TCR regularly skips precursor tropical waves. If reliable sources connect the event, then it's still OK to mention it, since otherwise, those deaths probably won't be mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia, and the article is a logical place to have tangentially related events. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:15, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    @Hurricanehink I couldn't find anything about precursor waves for Erick. BTW I'm pretty sure you are stalking my contributions lol. 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 18:09, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    For aftermathI could only find one source:IFAW supports disaster relief in Hurricane Erick’s aftermath 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 18:24, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Remember that the source might not say "aftermath". It might talk about rebuilding, power restoration, or government assistance. Right now, the only thing that's like any of these is:
    "The government allocated Mex19.5 billion (US$1.07 billion) to address the damage caused by the storm."
    And that's vague. Were these direct payments? Were they business loans? Compare Erick with another Category 3 landfalling major hurricane. There should probably be a separate aftermath section to focus that information, it'll make it easier to see what's needed. And btw FrizzB, I've had this article watchlisted since it became the earliest major hurricane landfall :P I also have majority of TC-related articles on my watchlist as well lol Hopefully my pointers here don't dissuade you from further edits! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:46, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    I'm pretty sure that the "The government allocated Mex19.5 billion (US$1.07 billion) to address the damage caused by the storm." is the same thing as 2 mmdp dejará de pérdida el huracán Erick - Diario de Xalapa | Noticias Locales, Policiacas, sobre México, Veracruz, y el Mundo 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 14:29, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Yea that's a good start for the aftermath. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:33, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Here is what I could find:
    I think @Quxyz can find some Spanish sources. 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 14:43, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    I do not speak Spanish and rely entirely on app translators. You can use User:Quxyz/List of local sources to mine some sources, but note that I use it mostly for Atlantic-side tropical cyclones. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 14:46, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    My bad. I meant @Hurricane Noah per Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather#Member languages 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 14:50, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    I will look tomorrow @FrizzB:. Noah, BSBATalk 23:37, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Preparations is also rather thin, though at this point, it might be legitimately hard to find any more. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    @FrizzB and Quxyz: I didnt have time to go through all of the sources to see what content they had but I did compile a list of ones mentioning Erick. Please see Talk:Hurricane Erick/Sources. Keep in mind there are more sources than this out there but I did give this to start with. Noah, BSBATalk 03:48, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

    @FrizzB: - did you go through all of Noah's sources that he provided above? Just checking since I saw you went ahead with the GAN. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:16, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

    @Hurricanehink I will finish by Thursday. 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 01:06, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    I recommend withdrawing the GAN until you do, only because it would be a disservice to Noah finding all of those sources, only for them not to be used. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:21, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    I didn't say they won't be used. 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 01:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Sorry, poor choice of wording. I just suggest withdrawing the GAN just until it's all finished. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:25, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
     Done for now. 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 01:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    @Hurricanehink can you add them, I'm working on something else. 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 19:10, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Sorry but I'm not interested in working on this article. There's no deadline, so the sources don't have to be added right now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:14, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    No worries! I'm only stuck in a GAR and I should finish by the end of next week. 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 19:59, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

    GA review

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    This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Erick/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

    Nominator: FrizzB (talk · contribs) 16:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

    Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 21:31, 11 December 2025 (UTC)Reply


    Lead
    • The important information is verified and cited in the article Green tickY
    • " Then, as it turned northwestward" - since there was no previous mention of movement, I suggest getting rid of "then" and saying "It moved northwestward". It's simpler I replaced it with "As it moved northwestward" so it connects with the next part of the sentence.🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:56, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • Link Saffir-Simpson scale somewhere in the lead, maybe in a note with "major hurricane", or just write it out somewhere  Done
    • "The complete collapse of convection on June 20 caused it to dissipate over the interior regions" - the "it" is a bit clear, I suggest using "Erick" here. Pretty minor if that's one of the only things I can nitpick about the lead. Done🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:56, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Met history
    • "On June 14, a slow-moving tropical wave emerged off the coast of Central America." - specify "west" coast  Done🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:56, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • You mention "basin" in both the lead and the MH, I suggest adding a link to basin  Done 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:56, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "broad area of low pressure" - link low pressure area  Done 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:56, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "The system soon acquired a well-defined circulation, developing into Tropical Depression Five‑E[4] by 00:00 UTC on June 17.[2]" - I'm not a fan of having a reference mid-sentence (even though I'm guilty of it sometimes). Could you put them both at the end?  Done🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:51, 15 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "Amid an environment conducive to strengthening, the system strengthened into a tropical storm 12 hours later, and was named Erick, while moving west-northwestward along the southwestern periphery of a weakening mid-level ridge situated over Mexico" - since it's a new paragraph, the "12 hours later" forces the reader to go back to the previous paragraph. I suggest something like "12 hours after it became a tropical depression", or something like that. Also, it's a lot for one sentence, so I suggest splitting.  Done🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 15:07, 15 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "Later, deep convection expanded, and cloud tops cooled to about −120 °F (−85 °C) near the developing inner-core structure.[5] Later that day, Erick began to rapidly intensify. " - the two "Later" doesn't help starting consecutive sentences. {{done}🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 15:07, 15 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "Rapid intensification continued, and based on data collected by an Air Force Reserve Unit Hurricane Hunter,[7] the NHC upgraded Erick to Category 2 strength a few hours later," - same problem as earlier, that the "few hours later" requires going back to the previous paragraph to know when this is. {done}}
    • "Late that same day, Erick developed a concentric eyewall structure, indicative of an eyewall replacement cycle.[2] Satellite imagery showed deep convection wrapping around the eye.[9] After the cycle was complete" - I suggest moving the part about the "convection wrapping around the eye", so the focus is on the eyewall replacement cycle.  Done
    • "After the cycle was complete, the system intensified further, reaching its peak intensity at 06:00 UTC that day, with Category 4 maximum sustained winds of 140 mph (220 km/h), an increase of 65 mph (100 km/h) in a 24-hour period, and a minimum central pressure of 944 mb (27.88 inHg). " - what was the basis for the peak intensity? You mentioned Recon earlier, so I'm assuming that. I also suggest adding where the storm was at this time. The fact it rapidly intensified right near the coast is interesting and scary.  Done

    Will continue later. It looks good so far. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

    @Hurricanehink I will finish later. 🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 00:56, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Continuing
    • I feel like there's one too many pics. The image of it intensifying south of Oaxaca seems unnecessary, since we have the peak intensity pic. I only noticed it because some of the text was getting sandwiched.  Done
    Preps
    • "Across the region, 2,000 shelters" - technically the source says "more than 2,000", not exactly 2,000
    • "In Guerrero, 582 shelters were opened on the same day." - there's no mention of a day. Also, is this needed since know the total shelter number is over 2,000?  Done
    • "Thirty-five municipalities of Oaxaca were ordered to open shelters" - we know the total number of shelters, so I'm not sure what this adds.  Done
    • "Classes were closed in forty-three municipalities." - could you also mention this when you mention the other schools closed?  Done
    • "Flights were cancelled to Bahías de Huatulco International Airport." - could this be combined with Acapulco canceling their flights?  Done
    Impact
    • I suggest starting out the Impact with some kind of summary/lead-in, like "When Hurricane Erick struck southern Mexico, it produced a variety of impacts." Right now it starts abruptly with the waves. Having a nationwide damage/death total would be helpful here. I also suggest adding meteorology observations, such as the highest rainfall recorded in the storm, highest wind gust, that kind of stuff. Otherwise the impact structure works fine, how you go from state to state. Done
    • "In Oaxaca, Erick dropped heavy rainfall that produced mudslides that damaged several homes and schools, closed highways, and injured one person." - could you split this up? It's a lot for one sentence, and it's unclear if it's the rainfall or mudslides causing all of those impacts. Done
    • "Street flooding stalled vehicles in Salina Cruz,[29][30] and at least 30,000 people in Puerto Escondido were left without electricity or cellphone coverage when Erick made landfall." - these don't seem related, so I suggest splitting into two sentences. DoneFrizzBTalk 20:56, 16 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • Since Acapulco is in Guerrero, I suggest combining the Acapulco stuff with the rest of Guerrero.  DoneFrizzBTalk 20:56, 16 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "In Oaxaca and Guerrero, Erick damaged or destroyed 42,552 homes, 468 schools, 1,665 km of federal highways, 1,243 km of state roads, 8 bridges, and 1 tunnel. In total, 276,885 customers lost power." - this sort of stuff would be good if you had an intro paragraph for the impact section. Maybe split it up into a few sentences. Remember to convert km to miles.  DoneFrizzBTalk 15:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "A man drowned after falling into the Tampaón River while another man was killed after being swept into a storm drain while riding a horse" - since these are two of the deaths in Mexico from the hurricane, I think it's worth adding where these happened. they are still in San Luis PotosíFrizzBTalk 15:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "As Erick approached Guatemala, it exacerbated heavy rainfall in the country, which resulted in 18 deaths, one missing and 27 injuries, with 5,053 people affected and 1,017 others displaced" - a few things. First, the article never mentioned Erick approaching the country, so maybe find a different way of wording this? Second, did Erick result in the 18 deaths, or did it exacerbate, or add, to the floods that had previously caused all of these deaths? Part 1: Done Part2:"The remnants of that phenomenon caused floods, landslides, mudslides and fallen trees," and "He recommended not crossing swollen rivers or flooded streets, because –he warned– those 18 deaths are a consequence of actions that did not take this into account." leads me to think that Erick caused the effects.🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 20:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "In El Salvador, as much as 70% of crops were damaged in El Paisnal due to the storm." - the "as much as 70%" doesn't mean much as an upper limit, especially being the only instance of impact in the country. Maybe just note that there was crop damage here?  Done🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 20:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    Aftermath
    • "Profits from the Guelaguetza festival, including the National Mezcal Fair, were devoted to the reconstruction of regions destroyed by Hurricane Erick." - it would be nice to have how much profits were raised, but not mandatory for a GA  Done I found 2 sources saying expected profits were Mex$40 million and Mex$31 million respectively🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 20:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • "400,000 pavilions, 16,000 liters of water and 2,500 tarpaulins have also been distributed." - what do you mean that 400,000 pavilions were distributed? Also, don't forget to convert liters to gallons. Lastly, the "have also been" is complex, when you could just say "were distributed."Part 1:When I translated it again, it says "tents". Parts 2 and 3. {{done}
    • "cleaning and removal of landslides were carried out on at least 313 kilometers of roads" - convert to miles Done
    • Why is the last aftermath paragraph on its own? It wasn't.🥏FrizzBTalk🥏 20:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

    In general the article is in good shape. Just a few small nitpicks. Hopefully it's easy to address. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:16, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

    @Hurricanehink I should have completed all of the changes. FrizzBTalk 15:05, 19 December 2025 (UTC)Reply