Talk:Hormel Foods/Archive 6

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Newslinger in topic Excessive in animal violations
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request edit

Hello, I would like to consolidate and shorten the wording as an effort to shorten the article by at least 500 words. Then I will have a temple similar to what Campbells uses on its WP page. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: George A. Hormel (born 1860 in Buffalo, New York) worked in a Chicago slaughterhouse before becoming a traveling wool and hide buyer. His travels took him to Austin and he decided to settle there, borrow $500, and open a meat business.[1] 

Add: George A. Hormel (born 1860 in Buffalo, New York) worked in a Chicago slaughterhouse and as a traveling wool and hide buyer. In Austin, he borrowed $500 to open a meat business.[2] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:55, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "George Hormel, 85, Packing Firm Founder, Dies". Chicago Tribune. 5 June 1946.
  2. "George Hormel, 85, Packing Firm Founder, Dies". Chicago Tribune. 5 June 1946.


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  • request edit November 6, #2

Hello, I would like to consolidate and shorten. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: To make ends meet in those early days, Hormel continued to trade in hides, eggs, wool, and poultry. 

Add: Hormel traded hides, eggs, wool, and poultry. 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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  • request edit November 6, #3

Hello, this info is offered twice, once in the intro and then in the first para of the history section. Can we delete one of the mentions possibly? Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: It changed its name to Hormel Foods in 1993. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


  Not done   This is by design to have elements in the lead repeated in the main section. Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • Request edit November 7, #1

Hello, looking to shorten and remove duplicate info. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The company was founded as George A. Hormel & Company in Austin by George A. Hormel in 1891.

Add: George A. Hormel founded his namesake company in 1891.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:12, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


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  • request edit November 7, #2

Hello, looking to shorten this article. Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Benjamin F. Hormel, brother of George A., retired in 1941 after completing 50 years of service.[23] .[1] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "Ben Hormel Retires After Five Decades Started At Bottom; Worked Way Up to Vice President". The Minneapolis Star. 9 Nov 1941.(Subscription required.)


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #3

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1901, the plant was expanded and the business was incorporated.[1] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #4

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1929 the plant was expanded again to include eight new structures and the main office was tripled in size.[2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:41, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. DeJesus, Erin (9 July 2014). "A Brief History of Spam, an American Meat Icon". Eater. vox media.
  2. Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. ASIN B0006EVC7K.


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #5

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: By the end of 1891 Hormel employed six men and had slaughtered and sold 610 head of livestock. 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #6

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1962, Hormel constructed a 75,000-square-foot (7,000 m2) sausage manufacturing building in Austin and discontinued the slaughter of calves and lambs. [1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:11, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Dougherty, Richard (1966). In Quest of Quality: Hormel’s First 75 Years. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. ASIN B0006BOWUW.


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #7

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The first directors were A.L. Eberhart and the four Hormel brothers: George, Herman, John and Ben.[1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:38, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Curtiss-Wedge, Franklyn (1911). The history of Mower County Minnesota: illustrated. Higginson Book Company. p. 215.


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #8

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: The remaining members of the Hormel family moved to Austin in 1895 and joined the growing business. 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:40, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #9

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: George turned to full-time management in 1899, and focused on increasing production.[1] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:23, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. N.A. (23 August 1899). "Austin Packing House. The Immense Business of Geo. A. Hormel & Co. in this City. Extensive Improvements Now Going in Which Will Greatly Increase the Capacity of the Plant". Mower Country Transcript. Retrieved 12 Aug 2018.(subscription required)


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #10

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: George Hormel visited England in 1905 and started exporting products soon after. [1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Dougherty, Richard (1966). In Quest of Quality: Hormel’s First 75 Years. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. ASIN B0006BOWUW.


  Done    Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


  • request edit November 7, #11

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The SPAM Museum in Austin, Minnesota, was opened in 2001.[1]

Add: The SPAM Museum opened in Austin in 2001.[2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Baskas, Harriet (27 March 2016). "Spam, the Edible Kind, Could Be a Boon for This Minnesota Town". NBC News.
  2. Baskas, Harriet (27 March 2016). "Spam, the Edible Kind, Could Be a Boon for This Minnesota Town". NBC News.


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  • request edit November 8, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Hormel products began appearing in national magazines such as Good Housekeeping as early as 1916.[1]

Add: By 1916, Hormel products appeared in magazines such as Good Housekeeping.[2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "Hormel Good cheer ad". Good Housekeeping. New York: International Magazine Company. July 1916. Retrieved 27 August 2018.
  2. "Hormel Good cheer ad". Good Housekeeping. New York: International Magazine Company. July 1916. Retrieved 27 August 2018.


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  • request edit November 8, #2

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.[1]

Add: Jay Hormel returned from WWI service in 1921 and uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000.[2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:12, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Levinson, Frances (11 March 1946). "Hormel: The Spam Man". Life. New York: Time Inc. p. 64.
  2. Levinson, Frances (11 March 1946). "Hormel: The Spam Man". Life. New York: Time Inc. p. 64.


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  • request edit November 9, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In May 2015, Hormel revealed it would acquire meat processing firm Applegate Farms for around $775 million, expanding its range of meat products.[1]

Add: Hormel acquired the organic meat producer Applegate Farms in 2015.[2] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Editorial, Reuters (25 May 2015). "Hormel Foods to buy organic meat company Applegate for $775 million". Reuters.
  2. "Company Overview of Applegate Farms LLC". Bloomberg. Retrieved November 9, 2018. Applegate Farms LLC produces and sells natural and organic meat products. The company offers refrigerated products that include deli meat, hot dogs, bacon, dinner sausage, traditional Italian products, chicken strips, and cheese products; frozen products that include burgers, breakfast sausage, breaded chicken, and corn dogs; and organic turkey burgers. Its products are available through stores. The company was founded in 1987 and is based in Bridgewater, New Jersey. As of July 13, 2015, Applegate Farms LLC operates as a subsidiary of Hormel Foods Corporation. {{cite web}}: no-break space character in |title= at position 20 (help)


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  • request edit November 9, #2

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete:  Little Sizzlers sausages were introduced in 1961 and Cure 81 hams were introduced in 1963.[1]

Add:  Little Sizzlers sausages and Cure 81 hams were introduced in 1961 and 1963, respectively. [2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Moore, Hank (5 April 2016). Pop Icons and Business Legends: History of Commerce and Heritage of Culture. New York: Morgan James Publishing. p. 124. ISBN 1630478431.
  2. Moore, Hank (5 April 2016). Pop Icons and Business Legends: History of Commerce and Heritage of Culture. New York: Morgan James Publishing. p. 124. ISBN 1630478431.


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Reply 10-NOV-2018

I'm going to ask that in the future you consolidate multiple requests under one {{request edit}} template with one instance of {{reflist-talk}} being used. Using multiple templates can seem disruptive to the uninitiated editor, as it makes the review process more difficult by having to scroll through several templates.

 Spintendo  11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo: Thank you, I will be sure to consolidate into one template moving forward. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 12, #1

Hello, do you have any suggestions on ways to remedy this notice: This section may be too long and excessively detailed. Please consider summarizing the material while citing sources as needed. (May 2018) Thank you. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


  Done   I have added subsections to the History section in an attempt to break up the text, making it more readable. Another way to lighten this load would be to omit information which is not as important, keeping in mind that Wikipedia articles ought to be a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject, and that WP:NOTEVERYTHING needs to be included.  Spintendo  09:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


@Spintendo: I have found info that may not be as important and batched them together as one edit request. If there are other sentences that you think could be omitted, please advise. Thank you! Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 13, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Joining George in November 1891 was his youngest brother, Benjamin, age 14. 

Delete: Two additional Hormel brothers, Herman and John, joined the business that same year, and together they processed 1,532 hogs.

Delete: That same year the company developed a procedure to recycle its waste water by daily evaporating up to 9,000 gallons of water, leaving a syrupy liquid which was dried to produce a commercial fertilizer.

Delete: By 1893, the increased use of refrigerator cars and greater efficiency had forced smaller businesses to collapse. 

Delete: In 1903 George Hormel added a three-story hog-kill, a two-story beef-kill, annex, engine room, machine shop and a casing production department.[1]

Delete: Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.

Delete: In 2004, Jennie-O Turkey Store launched its Jennie-O Turkey Store Oven Ready turkey.

Delete: Hormel Foods also acquired Fresherized Foods, makers of Wholly Guacamole, as part of their MegaMex joint venture.[citation needed]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Dougherty, Richard (1966). In Quest of Quality: Hormel’s First 75 Years. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. ASIN B0006BOWUW.


  Done    Spintendo  19:22, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 13, #2

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Since this info is also mentioned in the sidebar, can we delete it from the intro opening paragraph? Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 2018, the company reported annual revenues of 4.6 billion dollars. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

  • request edit November 13, #3


Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: That same year Hormel bought Alderson's Mill and began selling Hormel Peerless Minnesota flour nationwide.[1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Dougherty, Richard (1966). In Quest of Quality: Hormel’s First 75 Years. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. ASIN B0006BOWUW.

 Done  Spintendo  23:19, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 14, #1

Hello, do you think there are ways to shorten the animal cruelty section? Or any other spots? Thank you. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:00, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's not an actionable request. Please propose specific actionable edit requests when using the template.  Spintendo  18:35, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 14, #2

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 2008, animal rights organization PETA sent members to work undercover at a pig factory farm in Iowa to investigate allegations of animal rights abuses, then released a video record[1] showing workers treating the pigs cruelly and without regard for animal rights. The factory farm was owned by Natural Pork Production II LLP of Iowa until 18 August 2008, at which point ownership had transferred to MowMar LLP. Prior to this the farm was not a supplier to Hormel Foods. Hormel spokeswoman Julie Henderson Craven, who responded to the PETA video, called the videotaped abuses "completely unacceptable."[2] In their 2007 Corporate Responsibility Report, Hormel Foods stated that all suppliers are expected to comply with several welfare programs to ensure that the hogs purchased are treated humanely. Because of the investigation, several employees of the farm were fired and six individuals faced charges due to the abuse.[3]

Add: In 2008, PETA released an undercover video from an Iowa pig farm[4] showing workers treating the pigs cruelly. The factory farm was owned by Natural Pork Production until August 2008, when ownership was transferred to MowMar. Prior to this the farm was not a supplier to Hormel Foods. Hormel spokeswoman Julie Henderson Craven called the videotaped abuses "completely unacceptable."[5]

In its 2007 Corporate Responsibility Report, Hormel Foods stated that all suppliers are expected to comply with several welfare programs to ensure that purchased hogs are treated humanely. Because of the investigation, several farm employees were fired and six individuals faced animal abuse charges.[6]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "Mother Pigs and Piglets Abused by Hormel Supplier". People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. n.d.
  2. "Video shows workers abusing pigs at Hormel supplier". The Austin Daily Herald. 16 September 2008. Retrieved 3 January 2013.
  3. Lorentzen, Amy (24 October 2008). "Charges filed against 6 in Iowa pig abuse case". USA Today.
  4. "Mother Pigs and Piglets Abused by Hormel Supplier". People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. n.d.
  5. "Video shows workers abusing pigs at Hormel supplier". The Austin Daily Herald. 16 September 2008. Retrieved 3 January 2013.
  6. Lorentzen, Amy (24 October 2008). "Charges filed against 6 in Iowa pig abuse case". USA Today.

Partially implemented The text in that paragraph was modified.  Spintendo  01:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 15, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1917, George's son Jay C. served time in the military during World War I, reaching the rank of lieutenant by 1918.[1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:52, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Levinson, Frances (11 March 1946). "Hormel: The Spam Man". Life. New York: Time Inc. p. 64.


  Done    Spintendo  19:52, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 15, #2

Hello, one update that will tell readers who, exactly, Jay C. is. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.[1]

Add: In 1921, George’s son Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, and uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.[2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 16, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article – this video and incident is already mentioned in the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: A previous video released in 2015 by Compassion Over Killing featured footage filmed undercover of hogs being beaten by employees at a Quality Pork Processors plant in Austin, Texas, who are exclusive suppliers to Hormel.[3]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Levinson, Frances (11 March 1946). "Hormel: The Spam Man". Life. New York: Time Inc. p. 64.
  2. Levinson, Frances (11 March 1946). "Hormel: The Spam Man". Life. New York: Time Inc. p. 64.
  3. Hughlett, Mike (11 November 2015). "USDA investigating Hormel supplier's treatment of pigs after video surfaces". Star Tribune.


  Done    Spintendo  23:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 16, #2

Hello, is it possible to add a few more images to the page? Please advise best practices. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Add: Headquarters[1]

Spam: [2]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:41, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Photos should be uploaded through either Wikipedia's wizard or the Commons wizard.  Spintendo  01:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 30, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 2017, Mercy For Animals released undercover video footage of pigs being abused at a Hormel pork supplier, with piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries, and mother pigs crammed into gestation crates unable to move.[1] In response, Hormel temporarily suspended its buying from the supplier.[2]

Add:  In 2017, a Mercy For Animals undercover video taken at the Maschoffs supplier showed piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, and mother pigs crammed into gestation crates.[3] In response, Hormel temporarily suspended its buying from the Maschoffs.[4] In the animal welfare section of a 2017 corporate responsibility report, Hormel announced that it conducted 2,000 audits throughout its supply chain.[5]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Tom Meersman and Kristen Leigh Painter (31 Jan 2017). "Animal rights group accuses Hormel supplier of mistreating pigs". Star Tribune. Retrieved 31 January 2017.
  2. Tom Meersman and Kristen Leigh Painter (31 Jan 2017). "Animal rights group accuses Hormel supplier of mistreating pigs". Star Tribune. Retrieved 31 January 2017.
  3. Tom Meersman and Kristen Leigh Painter (31 Jan 2017). "Animal rights group accuses Hormel supplier of mistreating pigs". Star Tribune. Retrieved 31 January 2017.
  4. Tom Meersman and Kristen Leigh Painter (31 Jan 2017). "Animal rights group accuses Hormel supplier of mistreating pigs". Star Tribune. Retrieved 31 January 2017.
  5. "Hormel Foods Shares Food Journey Progress in 12th Annual Corporate Responsibility Report". 3BL Media. September 5, 2018. Retrieved November 30, 2018. To ensure the accountability of its high standards for animal welfare throughout its supply chain, more than 2,000 audits were conducted. In addition, the company continued to advance its antibiotic stewardship efforts. These efforts consist of reducing the use of antibiotics, the responsible use of antibiotics, investing in producing raised-without-antibiotics products and working with others to create solutions through its Antibiotic Working Group. {{cite web}}: no-break space character in |quote= at position 188 (help)

Reply 30-NOV-2018

  Edit request partially implemented  

  1. Green tick I've added the name of the pork supplier, the Maschoffs, to the section discussing them, as per the referenced source.
  2. Red X I've not added the claim regarding Hormel's 2,000 audits as mentioned in their 2017 corporate responsibility report, as it's not clear from the report that their implementation was as a response to the incident at the Maschhoffs.

Regards,  Spintendo  00:39, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

request edit November 27, #1

Hello, looking to shorten the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete:  In 2008, animal rights organization PETA released a video record showing workers at a pig factory farm in Iowa abusing pigs.[1] The factory farm was owned by Natural Pork Production II LLP of Iowa until 18 August 2008, at which point ownership had transferred to MowMar LLP.

Add: A 2008 video by animal rights organization PETA showed workers at a Natural Pork Production II LLP owned pig factory farm in Iowa abusing pigs.[2] In August 2008, the factory farm ownership transferred to MowMar LLP. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:01, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "Mother Pigs and Piglets Abused by Hormel Supplier". People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. n.d.
  2. "Mother Pigs and Piglets Abused by Hormel Supplier". People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. n.d.

Reply 27-NOV-2018

  Already implemented  

  • Moving the name of the owners of the factory to the first sentence instead of the second sentence may increase the metaphorical distance between the supplier and the buyer, but it does nothing to shorten the actual passage, whose length remains the same at two sentences.

 Spintendo  02:17, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo: OK. Wondering if 18 August 2008 can instead just read August 2008, since that format for dates is not used anywhere else in the article. Thank you. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done I've clarified in the article that the video was recorded over the course of 3 months, that the video was released to the media in September of 2008, and that the transfer of ownership occurred on 18 August 2008.  Spintendo  00:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Excessive in animal violations

Is it undue to include all the allegations of one of their pork suppliers? Considering the company itself wasn't abusing animals in 2017, seems excessive. Thoughts? ModerateMike729 (talk) 13:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@ModerateMike729: Your measure of this article's WP:DUEWEIGHT has not been calibrated to the correct type of business relationship discussed in this article. When business relationships involve livestock, certain requirements come into play. The relationship of these companies to Hormel is as contracted providers. Under the terms of those contracts, all parties are obligated to ensure the health and well-being of the livestock being transported within the system. Problems at a supplier automatically become Hormel's problems because that is the nature of food supply and production. More information about these contracts and the obligations that Hormel and their suppliers are under may be found at Hormel's website here.  Spintendo  19:14, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Struck comments from confirmed sockpuppet ModerateMikayla555/ModerateMike729. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Darryl.jensen/Archive § 07 July 2019. — Newslinger talk 13:47, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

request edit December 3, #1

Hello, looking at the animal welfare section after considering the comment from @ModerateMike729:. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 2017, Mercy For Animals released undercover video footage of pigs being abused at the Maschhoffs, a Hormel pork supplier, with piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries, and mother pigs crammed into gestation crates unable to move.[1] In response, Hormel temporarily suspended its buying from the supplier.[2] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:29, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Support. Seems like guilt by association and probably undue to include laundry list of supplier issues, since Hormel itself isn't abuser. I support this deletion. ModerateMike729 (talk) 17:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Tom Meersman and Kristen Leigh Painter (31 Jan 2017). "Animal rights group accuses Hormel supplier of mistreating pigs". Star Tribune. Retrieved 31 January 2017.
  2. Tom Meersman and Kristen Leigh Painter (31 Jan 2017). "Animal rights group accuses Hormel supplier of mistreating pigs". Star Tribune. Retrieved 31 January 2017.
Year Location Hormel Supplier
2008Bayard, IowaNatural Pork Production II, LLP. / MowMar LLP.
2015Austin, MinnesotaQuality Pork Processors
2017Hinton, OklahomaThe Maschhoffs

Mike is mistaken. These incidents did not occur at one pork supplier. They occurred at three pork suppliers to Hormel. The information is relevant to the article and well sourced.  Spintendo  18:13, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

OK @ModerateMike729: and @Spintendo:. Is it possible to then include for the Maschoffs paragraph something to the effect of: "In addition to launching its own investigation, Hormel in 2017 instituted more than 2,000 supply chain audits as a commitment to animal welfare accountability." Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
As I mentioned earlier, those audits are not specified as being instituted as a direct result of the case in Hinton, Oklahoma. Placing the info there implies that it is directly correlated.  Spintendo  18:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
@Spintendo: The audits are mentioned in the article, so it is linked: "Hormel said it has also dispatched certified third-party auditors to the Oklahoma farms and to additional Maschhoffs sites “to verify our animal care requirements are being adhered to.” Can we mention the auditors and/or maybe do a new separate line that is not with the Maschoffs paragraph with something like, "in Hormel in 2017 instituted more than 2,000 supply chain audits as a commitment to animal welfare accountability." These audits are efforts at accountability. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:59, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
@Spintendo: the statement that the "piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries" is from the animal rights group, but is not shown in the video. "Mercy For Animals on Tuesday presented an undercover video that showed workers castrating piglets and slicing off their tails, which the group said was done without any pain relief and caused injuries and illnesses that were not treated." -- Can we possibly delete that line, since it is not documented? Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
If the audits are already mentioned in the article, then that is where the information should stay. If anything, the animal abuse section should be integrated into the History section of the article and not the other way around, per WP:CSECTION.  Spintendo  19:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
The articles discussing the videos are the sources used here, not the videos themselves. "It's not documented by the video" is not relevant, because the source is not the video itself; rather, its what others have reported about the videos, and in any event, the entire video may not have been posted on these sites, perhaps only a segment of the video is what is shown.  Spintendo  19:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
@Spintendo: Sure, it makes sense to have the animal abuse section integrated into the History section. I can request that today. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


request edit December 3, #2

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

request edit December 3, #2

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:53, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

request edit December 3, #3

Hello, not sure how this info made it into the article on October 27. One option is if it's going to stay, then perhaps we can also include Temple Grandin's take from the article, as well? Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: According to Reuters, "in one scene of the video, pigs covered in feces or pus-filled abscesses are sent down the plant’s conveyor belt. At one point, a knife is used to cut open abscesses on dead pigs."[56] In response to this QPP announced plans to strengthen its video monitoring system and improve animal handling equipment.[56][57]


Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 03-DEC-2018

  Already declined  

@Spintendo: OK, makes sense. But is it customary for new sentences to be added to an article without any discussion in Talk? It looks like another editor did that, so I was just looking for more info. Thanks. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

request edit December 14, #1

Hello, wondering if we can add this info into the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham,[12] and added a canned chicken product line in 1928.[9] Hormel Chili and Spam were introduced in 1936 and 1937 respectively.[13][9] In 1938, Jay C. Hormel introduced the "Joint Savings Plan" which allowed employees to share in the proceeds of the company.[14]

Add: In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham,[12] and added a canned chicken product line in 1928.[9] Throughout the 1930s, Hormel ads were featured on the radio program The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show.[1] Hormel Chili and Spam were introduced in 1936 and 1937 respectively.[13][9] In 1938, Jay C. Hormel introduced the "Joint Savings Plan" which allowed employees to share in the proceeds of the company.[14]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:23, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. Freeman, edited by Núria Almiron, Matthew Cole, Carrie P. Critical Animal and Media Studies: Communication for Nonhuman Animal Advocacy. London: Routledge. p. unlisted. ISBN 978-1138842267. {{cite book}}: |first= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Reply 14-DEC-2018

 Implemented

 Spintendo  21:37, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

request edit December 18, #1

Hello, wondering if we can a new section with this info. Used the Campbell’s Soup Company page as a guide. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In the first decade of the 20th century distribution centers were opened in St. Paul, Minneapolis, Duluth, San Antonio, Dallas, Chicago, Atlanta, and Birmingham.

Add: Plants

USA[1] Atlanta, Georgia

Austin, Minnesota - World Headquarters[2]

Birmingham, Alabama

Chicago, Illinois

Dallas, Texas

Minneapolis, Minnesota

San Antonio, Texas

International:[3]

Melbourne, Australia

Shanghai, China

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Vinhedo, Brazil

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 19-DEC-2018

no Not approved

 Spintendo  16:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo: I would love your insight on what is needed to reformat and add more Hormel for the plant information. Thank you Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 19-DEC-2018

This is WP:ROTM which doesn't enhance the article.

 Spintendo  18:10, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

  • request edit December 18, #2

Many of Hormel's brand lines are listed below.

Hello, wondering if we can update the info box in the article with current financial info. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Total assets US$ 7.830 billion (2018)[2]

Add: Total assets US$ 8.142 billion (2018)[4]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 19-DEC-2018

Approved

Note: As the |assets= parameter is made up of |equity= and |liabilities=, those separate parameters should also be included here for completeness.

 Spintendo  16:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

  • request edit December 18, #3

Hello, wondering if we can update the info box in the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Operating income US$ 443.3 million (2018)[2]

Add: Operating income US$ 459 million (2018)[5]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 19-DEC-2018

Approved

 Spintendo  16:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

  • request edit December 18, #4

Hello, wondering if we can update the info box in the article. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Net income US$ 4.661 billion (2018)[2]

Add: Net sales US$ 9.55 billion (2018)[6]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 19-DEC-2018

no Not approved

Note: |net sales= is the money Hormel earns from doing business with its customers. |net income= (also known as profit) is what is left over after Hormel accounts for all revenue, expenses, gains, losses, taxes and other obligations.

 Spintendo  16:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "Company website". Hormel Foods. Retrieved December 17, 2018.
  2. Report, Staff (April 12, 1983). "Old Hormel plant doesn't come down easily". The Argus Leader. Sioux Falls, Idaho. Retrieved December 18, 2018. …that began demolishing the old Hormel plant last July after a new meat-processing plant was opened.(Subscription required.)
  3. "Company website". Hormel Foods International. Retrieved December 17, 2018.
  4. "Hormel Company Financials". NASDAQ. Retrieved December 18, 2018. Total Liabilities and Equity $8,142,292.
  5. "Hormel Earnings Release" (PDF). Hormel Foods. Retrieved December 18, 2018. Cash on hand increased to $459 million from $444 million at the beginning of the year.
  6. "Hormel Foods Reports Record Fourth Quarter And Fiscal 2018 Earnings; Provides Fiscal 2019 Outlook". Hormel Foods. Retrieved December 18, 2018. Hormel Foods Corporation (NYSE: HRL), a leading global branded food company, today reported results for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2018. All comparisons are to the fourth quarter of fiscal 2017 unless otherwise noted. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY – FISCAL 2018 Record net sales of $9.55 billion, up 4%; organic net sales down 1%.

request edit December 19, #1

Hello, wondering if we can update the article with this info. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Add: According to the Military Times, the company has been listed in the Best for Vets Employers Top 100 consecutively since 2013.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. Retrieved December 19, 2018.
  2. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. 2013. Retrieved December 19, 2018.
  3. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. 2014. Retrieved December 19, 2018.
  4. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. 2015. Retrieved December 19, 2018.
  5. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. 2016. Retrieved December 19, 2018.
  6. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. 2017. Retrieved December 19, 2018.
  7. "Best for Vets Employers". Military Times. 2018. Retrieved December 19, 2018.

Reply 19-DEC-2018

Looking through Wikipedia, I don't see that the Best for Vets designation is notable. There is Veterans' Employment and Training Service but I don't think that it's the same thing. If you can find this in its own article on Wikipedia then let me know and we can add it to the Hormel article.

 Spintendo  22:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo:

I was able to find mention of the list on two other pages. Perhaps that works?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Data

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_DRS Thanks. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 22-DEC-2018

 Implemented

 Spintendo  19:51, 22 December 2018 (UTC)