Talk:History of the Jews in Africa

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Lemba and Remba

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This was removed from the main list, there is too much dispute about them being "Jewish". See Who is a Jew? and Jews articles. More discussion is welcome on this talk page.IZAK (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

"Many [[Lemba people|Lemba]] Jews are adherents of [[Christianity]] and [[Islam]]<ref>Bruder, Edith. ''The Black Jews of Africa: History, Religion, Identity''. Oxford University Press, 2012.</ref>. They speak the [[Bantu languages]] spoken by their geographic neighbours and resemble them physically, but they have some religious practices and beliefs similar to those in [[Judaism]] and [[Islam]], which they claim were transmitted by oral tradition.<ref name="Magdel">{{Cite book|author= le Roux, Magdel|title=The Lemba – A Lost Tribe of Israel in Southern Africa?|pages=209–224, 24, 37|publisher=University of South Africa|location=Pretoria|year=2003}}</ref>They have a tradition of ancient Jewish or South Arabian descent through their male line.<ref>{{Cite journal|doi=10.1163/157430199X00100|title='Lost Tribes1 of Israel' in Africa? Some Observations on Judaising Movements in Africa, with Specific Reference to the Lemba in Southern Africa2|year=1999|last1=Le Roux|first1=Magdel|journal=Religion and Theology|volume=6|issue=2|pages=111}}</ref><ref name="VanWarmelo">{{Cite journal|author=van Warmelo, N.J.|title=Zur Sprache und Herkunft der Lemba|journal=Hamburger Beiträge zur Afrika-Kunde|volume=5|year=1966|pages=273, 278, 281–282|publisher=Deutsches Institut für Afrika-Forschung}}</ref> Genetic [[Y-DNA]] analyses in the 2000s have established a partially Middle-Eastern origin for a portion of the male Lemba population.<ref name="SpurdleJenkins">{{Citation | title = The origins of the Lemba "Black Jews" of southern Africa: evidence from p12F2 and other Y-chromosome markers. | pmid = 8900243 | pmc=1914832 | volume=59 | date=November 1996 | journal=Am. J. Hum. Genet. | pages=1126–33 | last1 = Spurdle | first1 = AB | last2 = Jenkins | first2 = T}}</ref><ref>{{Cite book|title=DNA and Tradition – Hc: The Genetic Link to the Ancient Hebrews |last=Kleiman |first=Yaakov |authorlink= |coauthors= |year=2004 |publisher=Devora Publishing |location= |isbn=1-930143-89-3 |page=81 }}</ref> More recent research argues that DNA studies do not support claims for a specifically Jewish genetic heritage.<ref>Tofanelli Sergio, Taglioli Luca, Bertoncini Stefania, Francalacci Paolo, Klyosov Anatole, Pagani Luca, "Mitochondrial and Y chromosome haplotype motifs as diagnostic markers of Jewish ancestry: a reconsideration", ''Frontiers in Genetics '' Volume 5, 2014, [http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fgene.2014.00384] DOI=10.3389/fgene.2014.00384</ref><ref name="Soodyall">{{cite book|author1=Himla Soodyall|author2=Jennifer G. R Kromberg|editor1-last=Kumar|editor1-first=Dhavendra|editor2-last=Chadwick|editor2-first=Ruth|title=Genomics and Society: Ethical, Legal, Cultural and Socioeconomic Implications|publisher=Academic Press/Elsevier|isbn=978-0-12-420195-8|page=316|url=https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=E9icBAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA309&dq=Cohen+Modal+Haplotype+Lemba&ots=2qm1JZ6H6M&sig=dl9j_r6piyECuNoE5baX_lU-z44#v=onepage&q=Cohen%20Modal%20Haplotype%20Lemba&f=false|chapter=Human Genetics and Genomics and Sociocultural Beliefs and Practices in South Africa}}</ref>

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