Talk:George Kaiser

Unreliable source

I've removed the unreliable source tag for the Giving Pledge because source 28 (as of my edit) is the website of the Giving Pledge where he is listed as having made the pledge. However the date when source 28 was accessed is about the time the tag was added. If I've missed some sort of policy or obvious fact please feel free to put it back. If possible could any one doing that leave me a message so I know for the future.Dolive21 (talk) 10:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

No mention of his link to the Solyndra loan scandal and his tight relationship with Obama. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.250.112.200 (talk) 19:23, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Sunlight Foundation

Please note a discussion at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard which, in part, discusses whether the Sunlight Foundation may be deemed a reliable source for contentious claims in this article. See WP:RSN#Koch Industries and Sunlight Foundation Blog. --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:13, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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Splitting Proposal

As part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of One80, I propose splitting the Philanthropy section of this article into a standalone article called George Kaiser Family Foundation. The current philanthropy section takes up a significant portion of the article, and a good deal is about the foundation's activities, which are not directed by Kaiser. There are many in-depth, third-party sources about the foundation. I have created Draft:George Kaiser Family Foundation to show what an independent article on the foundation could look like. Thanks, Stephanie BINK (talk) 17:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Question: The new draft seems okay to me. Would you propose leaving anything in the current section, or removing it entirely? Likeanechointheforest (talk) 18:26, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at the draft, Likeanechointheforest! I think keep the section, but streamline it significantly so the content is primarily about Kaiser himself, not the foundation. I've made a suggestion for how I think it should look below, let me know your thoughts!

Philanthropy

Kaiser is among those who have made The Giving Pledge, a commitment to give away half of his wealth for charitable purposes. Kaiser is listed third on BusinessWeek's 2008 list of the top 50 American philanthropists, behind Warren Buffett and Bill and Melinda Gates. An article in Forbes quoted him as saying "Those who have won the ovarian lottery by being born in an advanced society to loving parents have a special obligation to help restore the American Dream."

George Kaiser Family Foundation focuses on early childhood education, economic and community development, maternal and child health, public and charter schools, and criminal justice programs.

References

Thanks again! Stephanie BINK (talk) 17:46, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

It looks a bit promotional to me still! I'd like to leave it like this

Kaiser is among those who have made The Giving Pledge, a commitment to give away half of his wealth for charitable purposes.

George Kaiser Family Foundation focuses on early childhood education, economic and community development, maternal and child health, public and charter schools, and criminal justice programs. Likeanechointheforest (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate you taking another look. That change makes sense! Stephanie BINK (talk) 17:44, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Likeanechointheforest, wanted to send a friendly ping to make sure this didn't slip through cracks and see if you're interested in implementing the split and updates for the Philanthropy section. Let me know if you have any questions! Stephanie BINK (talk) 20:57, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping! Done Likeanechointheforest (talk) 01:20, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Stephanie BINK (talk) 14:55, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

Request to updates to Political activities

Hi editors, I would like to discuss the current Political Activities section on this page.

In the first paragraph, the reference uses a link to "Energy Bulletin" but attributes the article to the Wall Street Journal. The article is in fact from the WSJ, but I would like to suggest an updated reference with the correct link and a quote due to the paywall: <ref name="WSJ 2004">{{cite news |last1=Gold |first1=Russell |title=A Billionaire Takes a Gamble To Fix Natural-Gas Shortage - WSJ |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB109053110314271493 |access-date=7 May 2026 |work=Wall Street Journal |date=23 July 2004 |quote=Mr. Kaiser has told associates he plans to leave the bulk of his estate to charity. For every $1,000 he has given to Republican politicians, he has given $10,000 to Democrats, according to campaign contribution records.}}</ref>

In the second paragraph, only the first sentence is verified with an NBC source; the second sentence is unreferenced and not verified in the proceeding NBC source. Can editors remove that second sentence: At one 2007 event for Obama, he raised more than $250,000.

The last paragraph had a tag placed in 2011 questioning the reliability of the source used, specifically the post from the nonprofit Sunlight Foundation. The next source, from KRMG Radio relies on that post as well in its reporting. Since this has been unaddressed for more than a decade, how should this be handled?

References

As an added note, in Early life in the second paragraph, it says "George's father". Can this be updated to "Kaiser's father"?

Let me know if there are any questions. Thank you! Stephanie BINK (talk) 18:51, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request reply 8-JUN-2026

  Edit request declined  

1. The |quote= parameter was not added. (See WP:OVERQUOTING.)
2. The request to delete the information about the 2007 Obama event fundraiser was not approved, as the claim that the NBC source does not verify it is moot, since the NBC source's ref tag was not placed after the claim's mentioning in the prose. (See WP:TSI.)
3. The request regarding the placement of the maintenance template in connection with claims made concerning the Sunlight Foundation was declined as not actionable (i.e., a suggested course of action was not proposed). It is recommended that, as a courtesy, the COI editor first try asking the editor who assigned the template — in this case Arxiloxos — in order to find out from them if it can be removed. Since they placed the template, they are in the best position to know whether or not the issues which caused its placement have been corrected. The COI editor can contact them directly by placing a new message on their talk page.
4. The request to delete the referral to the subject's first name in favor of their last name is  now done.

Regards,  Spintendo  12:21, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Request to updates to Banking

Hi editors, I have another request related to the Banking subsection. First, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to either move or remove the content about Kaiser's net worth from this section. While he made money from banking, details about his Forbes ranking and net worth aren’t relevant to his banking career.

Second, the information about BOK is outdated and some of it is unsourced. I would like to know what editors thought about trimming it down to just the details about Kaiser's purchase. Thanks! Stephanie BINK (talk) 21:02, 17 June 2026 (UTC)