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Note: this article is about rape as a deliberate and calculated means to force women to become pregnant, usually with the intention to force them to give birth, as distinct from rape that solely involves sexual hatred and the desire to hurt and control. -- The Anome (talk) 13:34, 7 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sexual intercourse between a male and female is commonly understood to be likely to cause a pregnancy. If it were otherwise, contraceptives might not be so commonly used.

Therefore it does not matter that a perpetrator of rape (forced sexual intercourse) did not set out to cause a pregnancy; if the raped woman is made pregnant because of the rape, the perpetrator has made her pregnant against her will and it is a forced pregnancy.

By extension, a refusal to offer the raped woman a way of terminating that pregnancy is effectively continuing to enforce that pregnancy. It is a forced pregnancy. 2600:1700:EA01:1090:D54C:24F1:5109:4EC6 (talk) 09:27, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'd also note that denying a woman acess to morning-after contraception or abortion after either rape or any other act of sexual intercourse not intended to lead to pregnancy can also be regarded as a way of enforcing pregnancy; typically associated what might euphemistically be described as "traditional" attitudes, with their general desire for control of human reproductive power, expressed through means such as slut-shaming and generic opposition to women's economic and sexual freedom: see also barefoot and pregnant. -- The Anome (talk) 14:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

That's a very politicised and one sided take on it though. Those of us who hold different views on abortion to you don't see it as misogyny at all. --2001:BB6:7AB8:CE58:6DD5:F312:7BE1:65B7 (talk) 19:46, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

The section on Rwanda currently doesn't mention anything about forcing women to give birth. It just describes typical war rape. The only citation for that section also doesn't mention forced pregnancy. Kaldari (talk) 18:35, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Forced Conception: Compelled Carry Model

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Forced pregnancy the WHO describes forced pregnancy as "pregnancy coercion," and the UN human rights committee similarly describes this as forced motherhood.

The current state of this article erroneously does not include the denial/criminalization of abortion access as forced pregnancy.

A forced pregnancy necessarily means being forced to stay pregnant.

Suppose that a "forced pregnancy" does not necessarily mean the person is "forced to stay pregnant." This implies there exists a situation that is a "forced pregnancy," yet the person is perfectly free to end the pregnancy (not forced to stay pregnant). If the person is free to end the pregnancy but chooses not to, the pregnancy is consensual. If they are free to end it but are prevented from doing so, they are, by definition, forced to stay pregnant. You cannot have a "forced" state that the subject is "free to exit." Therefore, the assumption is false; it's true that a forced pregnancy necessarily means being forced to stay pregnant.

Suppose "forced to stay pregnant" is not a requirement for "forced pregnancy." We must then find a different "forced" element that makes it a forced pregnancy. Perhaps the conception was forced (rape), but the person now has full access to abortion. If the person has an abortion, there is no longer a pregnancy. If they wanted an abortion but were legally barred, they were forced to stay pregnant. If they could have had an abortion but chose to give birth, the pregnancy (the nine-month state) was not forced, even if the conception was. The term "forced pregnancy" describes a durative state (being pregnant). If that state isn't being maintained against one's will, the term "forced pregnancy" becomes a linguistic nullity.

Conflating forced impregnation with forced conception erases the compelled carry model. ~2026-27241-51 (talk) 07:31, 6 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

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