Talk:Fedor Karzhavin

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:48, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that a Soviet academic called Fedor Karzhavin a pro-American progressive? Source: To provide him with company Soviet researchers have come up with fresh new eighteenth-century progressives who favored the American cause. ... A. I. Startsev who for years had published nothing on Russian-American cultural relations, came up with his own candidate: Fedor Karzhavin. Here was someone who fitted the Marxian mold more comfortably than Radishchev, Novikov or Fonvizin, all of whom were of noble birth. The son of a merchant, he studied at the Sorbonne and then entered commerce himself. ... With regard to those whom Soviet scholars pointed out as supporters of the American Revolution, the lines of demarcation are also ambiguous. All except Karzhavin were of noble origin
  • ALT1: ... that Fedor Karzhavin was said to have "fitted the Marxian mold" than his contemporaries due to his non-aristocratic origins? Source: Same as ALT0
  • ALT2a: ... that a Russian may have stolen the Charter of the College of William & Mary? Source: Page 350 of this source discusses this theory
  • ALT2b: ... that Fedor Karzhavin may have stolen the Charter of the College of William & Mary? Same as ALT2a
  • ALT3: ... that Fedor Karzhavin built "one of the best [libraries] in Russia"? Source: While living in Paris and in dire financial straits, K. nevertheless purchased books for his library—which subsequently became one of the best in Russia. Живя в Париже и сильно нуждаясь, К., однако, покупал книги для своей библиотеки, которая в дальнейшем стала одной из лучших в России.
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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 141 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 22:57, 22 March 2026 (UTC).

• Hello! I'll review this.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I very strongly prefer Alt 2 (2b to be specific). Alt 1 seems interesting to Soviet history aficianados or people who already know of Karzhavin and Alt 3 seems a little hard to satisfactorily substantiate. I'd recommend a shift to alt 2c

• • ALT2c: ... that a fellow academic claimed Fedor Karzhavin stole the Charter of the College of William & Mary?

Academic might not be the right word and "friend" could be a substitute, but based on looking at the source, I think it's ambiguous enough that the source of the claim should be front-loaded. I also think the change in wording would fit in the lead of the article. I think the wording is acceptable as is, but think something like Alt2c would be a bit stronger. But if not, I think Alt2b works. Fascinating article! Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 04:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

@Dizzycheekchewer: Don't think the ALT2c is needed since 2a/2b provides just about enough interesting detail. Also, I had to fix the formatting of this DYK in the meantime. ミラP@Miraclepine 12:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)