Talk:Dislocated shoulder

Latest comment: 6 months ago by Shadydrew in topic WikiMed Peer Review

Transition from Shoulder problems

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Shoulder problems has a well written synopsis but doesn't include references. Verifying and transferring the information over would be much appreciated. Ichibani 03:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thousands of years?

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" ..For thousands of years after a dislocated shoulder is reduced, the patient's arm has been immobilized in a sling .. " Thousands of years? Is that.. right? Th 2005 (talk) 23:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Well, there's discussion in the article of Hippocrates' method for reduction, and he lived over 2000 years ago. He was surely sophisticated enough to strap down a hurt arm. It's not as if an arm-sling is high-tech, and immobilizing injured parts must be a very old form of first aid.

I'm typing this now wearing a finger splint that would have been perfectly accessible to the mind of an Ancient Egyptian with mallet finger: "Body part out of place. Put back in place; tie it there. Get back to work." You know? -GTBacchus(talk) 03:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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I would fix it up, but I'm afraid I'm inexperience (: Curtiswwe (talk) 12:08, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Inaccuracies in the reduction section

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The "external rotation" method described in this section is identical to Kocher's reduction. However, "external rotation" is said to be employed, whereas Kocher's is "rarely used any more". In my opinion, this section requires clarification and correction - anyone agree?  Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.185.76 (talk) 23:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Please discuss

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Please discuss Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi MrOllie

I made evidence based edits, I did not give medical advice. Why did you take my edits down--Jwidaws2 (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)-Reply

We are adding information from the literature on Shoulder Dislocations, not offering medical advice. --CaW23 (talk) 19:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Statements like 'Basic level exercises should be performed everyday while more advanced exercises should be performed approximately three times a week.' are dispensing medical advice. It is not up to us to tell patients what they should be doing. This content was also based on a single trial. Wikipedia has special requirements for sourcing of medical content, which you can find at WP:MEDRS. As you can see, Wikipedia generally does not cover or cite single trials. Meta-analyses or systematic reviews should be used instead. - MrOllie (talk) 19:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your feedback. The following content came from a systematic review: Not all patients require surgery following a shoulder dislocation. There is moderate quality evidence that patients who receive physical therapy after an acute shoulder dislocation will not experience recurrent dislocations. Some patients who experience shoulder dislocations and do not undergo surgery have been shown not to experience re- dislocation within two years of the initial injury. I would ask that you consider putting this information back on the page because it meeds Wikipedia's requirements for sources. Thank you. --CaW23 (talk) 20:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

CaW23, I didn't remove that. As you can see, it is still in the article now. MrOllie (talk) 20:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: WikiMed Fall 2025

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 27 October 2025 and 21 November 2025. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Shadydrew (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by ChroakleyDingDong (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Outline of Proposed Changes

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Hello, I am a fourth-year medical student, and have been assigned to edit this article as part of a WikiMed course at my medical school. Here are some edits I am thinking about adding, please let me know if you have any feedback. Thank you!

  • Will add references for Shoulder Problems, which are missing according to Talk.
  • Will add references that are more modern, as many of the current ones are from the early 2000s.
  • Will add common techniques used for reducing anterior shoulder dislocations, as several common techniques are missing from this section.
  • Will add more details about the types of physical therapy prescribed to patients following reduction of dislocated shoulder.
  • Will include examples of exercises and equipment used for strengthening under physiotherapy section.
  • Will add citations as needed where missing, throughout several sections in this article.
  • Will add more causes of dislocated shoulder, as it is not exclusive to fall on outstretched arm, but also includes extreme abduction and external rotation.
  • Will add more information to Prognosis section, as it is very short.
  • Will adjust Post-reduction section, adding more details to it and/or combining this section with Treatment section.

Shadydrew (talk) 23:14, 5 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

WikiMed Peer Review

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Shadydrew's draft provides significant improvements to the article through the addition of current, high-quality secondary sources and clearer explanations of dislocation types, complications, and treatment options (particularly physical therapy).

The added content is relevant, up-to-date, and significantly improves the article.

The "lead" could be improved by adding a better overview of the article's major sections.

The Treatment section contains some redundant information with the Complications section and could be streamlined, or treatment information should be removed from Complications section.

Overall tone is neutral, but surgical management potentially receives disproportionate emphasis compared with non-surgical treatment. The article significantly benefitted from Shadydrew's additions regarding physical therapy. Perhaps the Treatment section could be organized into conservative treatment strategies, followed by surgical strategies, followed by post-operative management.

The organization is very good, though consolidating redundant information and tightening long sections could improve readability. Images are appropriate and well-captioned, and the article clearly benefits from the added sources and structural updates. Ahilvert (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

This is very helpful! I have started applying these suggestions, and will continue editing the rest. Thank you! Shadydrew (talk) 18:48, 19 November 2025 (UTC)Reply