Talk:David Sive

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Proposed rewrite (COI disclosure)

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Conflict-of-interest disclosure: I am a grandson of David Sive. In line with WP:COI I am not editing the article directly and am instead proposing this rewrite here for review and implementation by uninvolved editors. I have tried to keep everything sourced to reliable, independent, published sources and to avoid promotional language; please scrutinize accordingly and revise as needed.

I hold copies of several primary documents (period New York Times articles, the New York Law Journal obituary, an Environmental Law Reporter article by the subject, and an ELI Report). I have cited these but have not reproduced their text. I have deliberately NOT used family eulogies as sources, as they are not independent or reliably published.

A short summary of the most important discrete factual corrections (which could be made even without adopting the full rewrite) is in the collapsed section below, followed by the full proposed text.

SUMMARY OF DISCRETE FACTUAL CORRECTIONS

These are the standalone fixes most worth making regardless of whether the full rewrite is adopted. Each is sourced in the draft below.

1. STORM KING / SCENIC HUDSON ROLE & DATE.

  Current article implies Sive "argued" Scenic Hudson as a principal and cites
  it as "(1971)." Correction: Sive JOINED the case in 1966; Lloyd Garrison
  (Paul, Weiss) led the team and Albert Butzel was also counsel. Sive's
  documented contribution was assembling the expert environmental witnesses and
  cross-examining Con Edison's witness Gilmore Clark. The case citations are
  354 F.2d 608 (2d Cir. 1965) [the landmark standing decision] and 453 F.2d 464
  (2d Cir. 1971). Source: New York Law Journal obituary (Stashenko, 2014).

2. AMCHITKA CASE NAME & CITATION.

  Current article names "Committee for Nuclear Responsibility, Inc. v.
  Schlesinger" and cites 404 U.S. 917. Both the D.C. Circuit case Sive argued
  and the Supreme Court order exist, but they should be distinguished:
    - Sive argued Committee for Nuclear Responsibility v. Seaborg, 463 F.2d 783
      (D.C. Cir., decided Oct. 5, 1971).
    - The U.S. Supreme Court then denied a stay 4-3 as Committee for Nuclear
      Responsibility, Inc. v. Schlesinger, 404 U.S. 917 (Nov. 6, 1971).
  Source: Justia/Leagle court records; NYT (Graham, Nov. 7, 1971).

3. FIRM CHRONOLOGY & RETIREMENT.

  Add: Winer, Neuberger & Sive (1962) became Sive, Paget & Riesel in 1980; Sive
  retired in 2006. Source: New York Law Journal obituary (2014).

4. 1958 CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN (currently omitted entirely).

  Sive ran as the Democratic candidate in New York's 28th congressional
  district in 1958 against Republican incumbent Katharine St. George, and lost.
  Source: NYT (Dean, Oct. 14, 1958).

5. WAR SERVICE DETAIL.

  Add: Sive served as a wireman (communications) and was wounded laying wire on
  the Remagen Bridge. NOTE: the NYLJ obituary's statement that he attended
  "City College of New York" before service appears to be an error; Brooklyn
  College (BA 1943) is confirmed by multiple sources and should be retained.

6. NRDC FOUNDING YEAR — SOURCE CONFLICT, HANDLE CAREFULLY.

  Sources variously give 1968 and 1970. Recommended treatment: "a founding
  member of the Natural Resources Defense Council (incorporated 1970)," noting
  the organizing activity began in the late 1960s, rather than asserting a
  single year in Wikipedia's voice.

7. FIRST ELI AWARD (1984) and PACE MOOT COURT named in his honor — both

  citable additions. Source: ELI Report (Cruden, 2011).

PROPOSED ARTICLE (WIKIPEDIA MARKUP)

Forevaclevah (talk) 22:03, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Beta Beta Beta - talk 04:21, 29 May 2026 (UTC)Reply