Talk:Daisy Greville, Countess of Warwick

Latest comment: 10 months ago by Cloptonson in topic Marriage to John Boyd Dunlop?

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Marriage to John Boyd Dunlop?

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Did she marry John Boyd Dunlop, the tyre inventor, as stated at the Daisy Bell article? Anyone got a source for that?

I ask because it seems rather odd that it is not mentioned in this article, as he too is a prominent figure. --Mais oui! 10:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

She also seems to be the mother of the heir of the Earl of Warwick, in 1882. Her husband died three years after Dunlop, in 1924. No solid citation for this remarriage anywhere, so I'm calling it a hoax, probably based on a subtle pun that she inspired the song "Daisy Bell/Bicycle Built For Two", and Dunlop invented the bicycle (tricycle) tire. -- Yamara 02:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I suspect the legend may have arisen from someone in the USA ignorant of her title by marriage, as their country has no peerage system and where British peers/peeresses are commonly referred to by their names rather than their titles. I also suspect a double-entendre over 'Bicycle built for two' if her adulterous liaisons were common gossip.Cloptonson (talk) 19:32, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

References etc

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I've added a bibliography. Most if not all of the text in the article can be referenced from these books, which I will try to do later. Mscprm (talk) 21:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Douglas Haig

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Douglas Haig's son Dawyck claimed that it was "family tradition" that DH had had an affair with Daisy Warwick in the early 1900s, just prior to his own marriage - it's mentioned in a recent bio by Walter Reid. No idea how much truth there is in it, maybe they just met at a few parties and had a chaste flirtation, or whatever. Anyone know if this is corroborated in any biography of her?Paulturtle (talk) 07:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Not seen her biography (she is mentioned in ODNB but not recently read it), but I comment the likelihood is probable as they were around same age (both born 1861) and Haig was of the relatively late age of 44 at his marriage in 1905, after a two-year acquaintance with his future wife.Cloptonson (talk) 18:37, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Is "courtesan" an accurate description?

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I'm not sure I'd describe Daisy as a courtesan, as it suggests a prostitute, ie, someone who earns her living exchanging sex for money. (Wikipedia's own entry reads "Today, the term courtesan has become a euphemism to designate an escort or a prostitute, especially one who attracts wealthy clients.) Daisy was an heiress in her own right and married into even more money. Her relationships were extramarital affairs and while she received expensive gifts and occasional cash, prostitution was not her profession. Thoughts? ChiHistoryeditor 19:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I would agree with your description to say courtesan would be technically inaccurate.Cloptonson (talk) 18:38, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply