Talk:DXVK
Latest comment: 10 months ago by ShazboTZer0 in topic "controversies" section questionable
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"controversies" section questionable
editthe inclusion of the "controversies" section in the article is questionable as dxvk itself is nothing to do with the bans as it simply translates directx calls to vulkan. wine is the only issue with these bans as it is what runs the windows programs. it also seems slightly biased - there is a weird negative sort of tone to that section of the article. should it be removed? 151.231.5.7 (talk) 22:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- DXVK can be used on Windows and anticheat systems may get triggered as well. According to some Reddit comments some users have been banned because of that. The issue is not specific to Wine though Linux/Wine users have suffered the most. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 01:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- The section was not faithful to the sources. I have rephrased what the sources said and I removed the part concerning the inability to detect the integrity of games running under Linux. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am removing the last sentence. This should be something that should be easy to at least provide a source for if this is an argument being made by publishers/developers, no source has been provided. Additionally, this source: "Caution: Playing 'Overwatch' On Linux May Get You Banned". North America. Retrieved 2024-05-31. - it is listed as "North America", that's an undated Alienware Arena article at some point post 2018 and is talking about the same thing as the Phoronix article, should both be included? ShazboTZer0 (talk) 19:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ask any hardcore system programmer and they'll tell you exactly that. Ask any half-decent LLM and it will confirm that as well. Anyway, I knew Linux fans would not welcome this piece because it hurts their ego/group think/bubble, so be it. I have 0 desire to prove myself right because it's basically common knowledge at this point. Under Linux you can swap/alter any piece of the software stack without the game knowing about it while in Windows you can get some piece of mind and that's why multiple AAA online titles don't support Linux users. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 19:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- For the sake of this discussion, we can assume the statement that "verifying kernel/OS integrity under Linux is more difficult/impossible because of the open source nature of the system" is true, but it is also irrelevant.
- The question is "is this an argument being made by game publishers/developers?" as this is a controversy section and there is no controversy to speak of if that argument isn't being made specifically by the relevant parties. For instance, there could be other reasons as to why these games are not functioning on Linux such as the lack of people on the team able/willing to implement the anti-cheat for Linux or the operating system not having a large enough market share to justify it in the eyes of the developer/publisher.
- I don't think there's an issue if that sentence or something similar being there provided there is a citation.
- Also, no, I won't be asking an LLM. ShazboTZer0 (talk) 09:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ask any hardcore system programmer and they'll tell you exactly that. Ask any half-decent LLM and it will confirm that as well. Anyway, I knew Linux fans would not welcome this piece because it hurts their ego/group think/bubble, so be it. I have 0 desire to prove myself right because it's basically common knowledge at this point. Under Linux you can swap/alter any piece of the software stack without the game knowing about it while in Windows you can get some piece of mind and that's why multiple AAA online titles don't support Linux users. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 19:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am removing the last sentence. This should be something that should be easy to at least provide a source for if this is an argument being made by publishers/developers, no source has been provided. Additionally, this source: "Caution: Playing 'Overwatch' On Linux May Get You Banned". North America. Retrieved 2024-05-31. - it is listed as "North America", that's an undated Alienware Arena article at some point post 2018 and is talking about the same thing as the Phoronix article, should both be included? ShazboTZer0 (talk) 19:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- The section was not faithful to the sources. I have rephrased what the sources said and I removed the part concerning the inability to detect the integrity of games running under Linux. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)