Talk:Clan MacAlpine

Title (e)

All the Clan things I've seen for this Clan are just MacAlpin, no "e". Is there really a good reason to have this as MacAlpin(e)? I think it's messing up navigation in links. - CorbieV ^☊ ☼ 20:10, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 7 October 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:11, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

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Clan McAlpin(e) → Clan MacAlpine – Wikipedia article titles do not use parentheses to indicate optional letters (unless that is the official name, as in Julia(s)). Looking at the references, MacAlpine seems to be the most common spelling. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:31, 7 October 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 23:27, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

I placed RM notices at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clans of Scotland (which appears inactive based on talk page posts) and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthroponymy. I agree with the nom that the (e) is odd and it would be best to pick the most common variant. Or perhaps this is a case where official usage should prevail. Ngram shows that MacAlpine was the most common form until recently and is still the second most common, with MacAlpin on the rise. There is no record of "Clan McAlpin" and the other three variants have traded places over the decades. Sources in the article are pretty weak but do seem to favor MacAlpine. I'm not confident making the call which form is best but I am inclined to support some sort of change that gets rid of the parentheses. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 01:34, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Move to MacAlpine as proposed. I would have expected "MacAlpin" to be the older, more "official" form to agree with Kenneth MacAlpin, who is generally found without an 'e'. But I have four books on Scottish clans and tartans, and the three that mention "MacAlpine" are agreed on the spelling (for some reason, the fourth, though the largest and ostensibly an "encyclopedia" of Scottish clans, doesn't even list it in the index). I'm not saying that "MacAlpin" is wrong, just that it's not the form I find in reference books referring to the clan, as opposed to the king. If reference books on a subject use the same spelling, that would probably be the best choice; although as with other articles, common spelling variants can be mentioned in the lead, or in a separate section should there be enough of them or more to say about the spelling. P Aculeius (talk) 02:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
• Move to MacAlpine as proposed based on that Wikipedia article titles do not use parentheses. McAlpin could also be acceptable but the Lord Lyon recognises McAlpin as Commander of the Name of McAlpine which would appear to imply the clan name . QuintusPetillius (talk) 14:05, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

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