Talk:Citrine

Latest comment: 1 month ago by GearsDatapacks in topic Requested move 26 April 2026
Good articleCitrine has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 30, 2025Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 29, 2025.
The text of the entry was: Did you know
... that most "citrine" on the market is not natural citrine
(example pictured), but rather heat-treated amethyst?

GA review

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Nominator: I2Overcome (talk · contribs) 07:39, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: OmegaAOL (talk · contribs) 20:37, 30 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Hello! I'll be your reviewer for today. I have already fixed the (minor) problems in this article (listed below) and passed it. Congratulations on your Good Article!

  • The claim Natural citrine is rare was not cited anywhere in the article. I added a citation for this.
  • Last sentence of lead did not confirm the function of smoky quartz in citrine manufacture; I clarified it, with the new line citrine is produced by heating amethyst or smoky quartz.
  • Natural citrine ranges in color from yellow to yellow-orange and yellow-green is not really a range. I fixed this by changing the sentence to Natural citrine ranges in color from yellow-orange to yellow-green
  • The statements Both smoky quartz and citrine are dichroic in polarized light and will fade when heated sufficiently or exposed to UV light. They occur in the same geological environments and can frequently be found together in the same crystal as smoky citrine. Smoky quartz can also be converted to citrine by careful heat treatment. were both uncited and irrelevant, in the case of smoky quartz. Removed.
  • Link to words like dichroism.
  • Change Like amethyst, heat-treated amethyst to Like citrine, heat-treated amethyst, and also add citation.
  • Spot-checked the article, and existing citations are valid and redirect to reliable sources.
  • No original research seems to be present, anymore at least.
  • Article is focused and does not go in depth to other unrelated topics, after I removed a statement on smoky quartz's history.
  • Many citations missing. Add all of those.
  • The article passes Criteria 1 with a good lead and MoS-compliant body.
  • C2 was lacking (references and links), but I rectified that.
  • Ran copyvio check, there are no issues.
  • Ran plagiarism check, no issues,
  • It is broad in its coverage, so C3 passes.
  • NPOV, you can't be biased towards a rock but anyways this article isn't biased.
  • Stable. Checked edit log.
  • Yes, many images of citrine and gallery is present, with free-use rationales. Excellent work on the images.
  • Congratulations, nominator! I liked your article!
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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Staraction talk 17:40, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

"Citrine" crystal (heat-treated amethyst)
"Citrine" crystal (heat-treated amethyst)
  • ... that most citrine on the market is not natural citrine, but rather heat-treated amethyst (pictured)?
  • Source: : "Note: Natural citrine is very rare. Large quantities of amethyst, usually of lesser quality, are heated to turn it yellow or orange and sold as "citrine." Because the color is now caused by finely distributed iron minerals (mostly hematite and goethite), heated amethyst is not citrine in the strict sense, and also shows no dichroism in polarized light."
: "Natural citrine is rare. Most citrine on the market is the result of heat treatment of amethyst."
  • ALT1: ... that most "citrine" on the market is not natural citrine (pictured), but rather heat-treated amethyst?
ALT1 image: Natural citrine crystal from Brazil
ALT1 image: Natural citrine crystal from Brazil
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Note: I cannot "prove" that the citrine in the image is heat-treated amethyst, because it was simply published by the author as a citrine crystal (very rarely is heat-treated amethyst described as such). However, it is almost certainly heat-treated amethyst based on its color and the presence of white quartz on the bottom. If this isn't acceptable, the image can be omitted.
Improved to Good Article status by I2Overcome (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

I2Overcome talk 05:29, 31 October 2025 (UTC).Reply

  • I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 12:11, 2 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • The article is new enough (promoted to GA on 30 October 2025), is long enough (5354 characters of prose), has no apparent copyright issues (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited, short enough, and interesting, but I think it needs some editing to work. As I understand the source, heated amethyst is not really citrine and the name is therefore placed in quotation marks ("citrine"), but this distinction is lost in the current hook. Could you rewrite the hook or propose an alternative? And I would prefer to see a picture of real citrine instead, since that is what the highlighted article is about. Could you propose an alternative image? – Editør (talk) 12:32, 2 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • @Editør: I have added an alternative hook and image above. I will say that the article is about both natural citrine and heat-treated amethyst, since the latter is far more common and almost always sold as citrine. I2Overcome talk 03:39, 3 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
      Thank you for the alternatives and your explanation. The second image is freely licensed, clear at a smaller size, and used in the article.
      I pass ALT1 with the second image. – Editør (talk) 09:45, 3 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata Conflict: Request to merge duplicate items for Citrine

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Hello! I noticed that this article is currently linked to the wrong Wikidata item (Q132146612), which only contains 3 languages. The main Wikidata item for Citrine is Q334719, which is linked to 34 other languages. Could an editor with Wikidata permissions please merge Q132146612 into Q334719? This will fix the missing interlanguage links in the sidebar. Thank you! ~2025-39336-34 (talk) 14:14, 24 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Just saw this now. Thank you for pointing this out; I was wondering why there were so few interwikis for such an important gemstone. It seems enwiki was far behind with this article.  Done I2Overcome talk 16:03, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 26 April 2026

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus is that this is the primary topic. (closed by non-admin page mover) {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 15:58, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply


– The quartz variety and gemstone is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over citrine (colour), the common reference for which is the gemstone. Hatnotes should be sufficient for disambiguation. Move the dab page to Citrine (disambiguation). I2Overcome talk 15:55, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • Support: WikiNav shows that 86.05% of the traffic from the disambiguation page goes to the quartz compared to 13.95% to the color; clear primary topic. 1isall (talk | contribs) 17:37, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • Support. Google Books results most often refer to the gemstone or use Citrine as a name, but named individual varies and includes many fictional characters without articles. I agree with 1isall, as well—the Wikiav strongly supports this. —Myceteae🍄‍🟫 (talk) 19:44, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • I checked mass views for all topics linked here which showed a substantial advantage for the color article, which was strange. Then I went to check the historical trend and in the monthly views comparison it became obvious that we didn't seem to have a separate article for the quartz up to relatively recently (early last year). OK, so that mostly explains it, phew.
March '26
  1. Views of Citrine that probably correspond to a click towards the quartz article 370 (53.2%)
  2. Clicks from Citrine to something that we can't identify (anonymized) 153 (22.0%)
  3. Views of Citrine that probably correspond to a click towards other identifiable articles 60 (8.62%)
  4. Views of Citrine that can't be assumed to correspond to any outgoing clicks 113 (16.2%)
February '26
  1. Views of Citrine that probably correspond to a click towards the quartz article 279 (47.7%)
  2. Clicks from Citrine to something that we can't identify (anonymized) 114 (19.5%)
  3. Views of Citrine that probably correspond to a click towards other identifiable articles 45 (7.69%)
  4. Views of Citrine that can't be assumed to correspond to any outgoing clicks 147 (25.1%)
January '26
  1. Views of Citrine that probably correspond to a click towards the quartz article 350 (48.2%)
  2. Clicks from Citrine to something that we can't identify (anonymized) 152 (20.9%)
  3. Views of Citrine that probably correspond to a click towards other identifiable articles 62 (8.54%)
  4. Views of Citrine that can't be assumed to correspond to any outgoing clicks 162 (22.3%)
The other thing to check is filtered clickstreams. Sadly, there's quite a few in the current data. That means the actual amount of clicks isn't really ~86%, rather the overall comparison is like the pie charts to the right for the last three months, which take incoming page views into account. It's good that this is often around 50%, but that's still not huge.
The move is probably acceptable if we consider the quartz and the color a naturally interconnected group of topics that is going to be navigated between easily. --Joy (talk) 13:25, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
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