Talk:Church of the East in India
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 | The content of Malankara–Persian ecclesiastical relations was merged into Church of the East in India. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Cleanup
editI am starting the clean Up.Tarijanel 15:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Cleanup required
editThe article seems to be an exact copy-paste from an url. Hence the article needs extensive cleanup and should be re-written. --Samaleks (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Is there any editors associated with this article who can help in cleanup ?--Samaleks (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
rename
editWouldn't be better to rename this to Church of the East in Malabar, similar to Church of the East in China? Most scholars agree that the Church of the East wasn't quite Nestorian and that this title was used as a pejorative term by Jacobites and Catholics.--Rafy talk 01:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- I Agree on that topic Br Ibrahim john (talk) 13:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Renaming
editI agree to some extent with Rafy. However I would like to suggest that the best title for this article would be: The Nestorian Controversy and the Church in India. Such a title would allow this article to be expanded to include the various jurisdictions present in India and permit an historical overview to be included. 27.33.44.231 (talk) 14:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Merge proposal
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Consensus was to merge. Qalb alasid (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
I propose merging Malankara-Persian ecclesiastical relations into Church of the East in India. Both articles are fundamentally speaking of the same subject, i.e., the Church of the East Christianity in India. Presence of two separate articles in this common subject is unnecessary and superfluous.Logosx127 (talk) 06:26, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
First sentence
editThis unsourced and, by my understanding, incorrect statement was added here, in 2022, with the ES "minor LEDE".
The history of the Church of the East in India is dated to 52 AD by apocryphal sources and to the 9th century by the Quilon Syrian copper plates, the latter of which is considered the earliest reputable dating for Christians in the Indian subcontinent.
For all I know, mention of the Quilon Syrian copper plates may be appropriate for the lead, but the unattested suggestion that the 9th century is the earliest "reputable" dating appears to my untutored eye to be demonstrably false on even a cursory reading of sources.
For example:
- "by the 3rd century at the latest"[1]
- "hints here and there", but the "first piece of 'fully convincing' evidence occurs mid-sixth century"[2]
- "well-established communities of Christians in South India no later than the third and fourth centuries, perhaps much earlier"[3]
So, I've removed this unsourced two-year-old, first lead-sentence. AukusRuckus (talk) 14:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
References
- ↑ The encyclopedia of Christianity. Grand Rapids, Michigan (US); Leiden: Eerdmans; Brill. 1999. p. 686. ISBN 978-0-8028-2413-4.
- ↑ Daughrity, Dyron B.; Athyal, Jesudas M. (2016). Understanding world Christianity: India. Minneapolis: Fortress Press. p. 10. ISBN 978-1-5064-1689-2.
- ↑ Frykenberg, Robert Eric (2008). Christianity in India: From beginnings to the present. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press. p. 115. ISBN 978-0-19-826377-7.
Verification help
editIn fixing some other issues, I've noticed that this article has several footnotes which aren't defined at all. These footnotes have existed for more than 10 years! In addition to foreign-language citations which offer no translation and a recently completely sloppy merge, I think this article deserves a thorough verification pass. -- mikeblas (talk) 15:50, 30 September 2025 (UTC)