Talk:Ceratogaulus

Incomplete move request

An incomplete move request at Wikipedia:Requested moves indicated that there was a proposal to move this page to the animal's scientific name. Below are the comments that the proposal generated there, which generally did not support a move. If the move is still desired, please file a full request using the procedure described at WP:RM. Thank you. Dekimasuよ! 08:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• I don't actually contest the move, but animal article titles are covered under WP:ToL and common names may be used, this should be removed from here and discussed on the talk page of the article, then a consensus reached. —KP Botany 19:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: WP:TOL says: "In cases where there is a formal common name (e.g. birds), or when common names are well-known and reasonably unique, they should be used for article titles, except for plant articles. Scientific names should be used otherwise." I don't personally have any sense of whether "horned gopher" is "well-known" enough to qualify. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 23:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment:As far as I know, they're either known as "Mygaulids" or "Epigaulus." I've never heard of "horned gopher" being used as a common name for them until Wikipedia, especially since most of the books that mention them make a big to-do about how they're related to sewells/mountain beavers.--Mr Fink 14:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

    For the record, I first heard of them under the name "horned gopher". DS (talk) 12:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

    An informal name is not necessarily the most commonly used name. In this case it doesn't seem to be, and it should be moved to the scientific name. It even seems horned gopher could refer to the entire family, not just this one genus. FunkMonk (talk) 09:56, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

• After looking a bit around, why are we even so sure that "horned gopher" only refers to this particular genus, and not Mylagaulidae overall? Seems to be various references to the entire group by this name. FunkMonk (talk) 02:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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Requested move 25 October 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) TarnishedPath^talk 15:10, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

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Horned gopher → Ceratogaulus – This animal is obscure enough that "horned gopher" is not really a "common name" in a meaningful sense for this taxon (nor is it accurate because they are not particularly related to gophers), and the term has only been used a handful of times to describe this animal, or anything else otherwise in the scholarly literature (note, I have added -twilightbeasts.org to remove irrelevant non peer-reviewed blog posts which are all included because the term "horned gopher" is listed on the sidebar of every article on the site). The name "horned gopher" is ambiguous because other related members of the family like Mylagaulus also bore similar horns, and has also been referred to as a "horned gopher" (e.g. ). Ceratogaulus is the clear, WP:PRECISE and unambiguous name for this taxon. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Pinging recently active and not topic banned users who have previously discussed this issue: @FunkMonk:, @Dekimasu:, @DragonflySixtyseven: and @Apokryltaros:. I am aware that the last time some of you commented on this issue was nearly 20 years ago, so sorry if this ping seems absurdly belated. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:15, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

As I said sixteen years ago, I first heard of them under the name 'horned gopher'. It's not an unknown term. (Where did I see the term used? No idea. Probably somewhere online.)

However, your argument — in particular, 'we need to distinguish ceratogaulids from mylagaulids' — is certainly a valid one, and I won't object to the move if there's consensus. DS (talk) 00:48, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I support moving this page to "Ceratogaulus." While there are some other mygaulids that have horns like Ceratogaulus, its colloquial use invariably refers to this genus. Also, wouldn't "ceratogaulid" refer to members of the subfamily? Mr Fink (talk) 02:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

And as I said back then, it's not only the common name for this specific genus, but for the family, it seems. FunkMonk (talk) 22:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I support the changing of the name and moving of the page to Ceratogaulus, the term “horned gopher” can be applied to any horned mylagaulid in my experience and it’s more precise to use the generic name as opposed to the common one. Multituberculate15 (talk) 00:00, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

• Support scientific name is more precise and seems to be more commonly used. Plantdrew (talk) 18:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.