Talk:Cú Chulainn
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Esoteric Birth Story
editMaybe it's just me, but I feel like the birth section is just written really strangely? It's very clunky and hard to parse through, and a lot of details seem to have almost no meaning or correlation-- the two colts born to the mare are never explained as birth gifts to Sétanta, and it generally reads like a stream-of-consciousness rendition of his birth.
I wouldn't really know where to start editing it, or if other people deem it worthy of being edited. It may just be me too-- I'm willing to acknowledge I'm reading things pretty poorly, but this section just feels overly dense IMO.
The articles on Deichtine and Súaltam already have some better, albeit more brief versions of Cú Chulainn's birth story, that feel way less dense.
FenrirSkin (talk) 18:39, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
GA concerns
editI am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because of uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Is anyone interested in addressing that concern, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 15:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
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- Result: Issues seem resolved. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
This article contains numerous uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 16:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- good article though, would be shame to delete! Kellycrak88 (talk) 14:07, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kellycrak88: WP:GAR is a discussion on whether the article meets the good article criteria. If it is delisted, the article will still remain on Wikipedia. Z1720 (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I will try to find citations. --Chronicler Frank (talk) 21:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think all of it already have citation. Do you mind to take look at it once again Agus Damanik (talk) 15:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Agus Damanik: I added two cn tags. After looking at the lead, I think a brief sentence or two should be added about his cultural depictions. Z1720 (talk) 15:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- already done the lead Agus Damanik (talk) 16:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- The first cn, is that the citation is the quote itself. Agus Damanik (talk) 15:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thomas Kinsella (translator), The Táin, Oxford University Press, 1969, pp. 156–158 Agus Damanik (talk) 15:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Agus Damanik: Does the citation verify that the subsequent quote is "The most elaborate description of his appearance"? I would also suggest putting "— Thomas Kinsella (translator), The Táin, Oxford University Press, 1969, pp. 156–158" into a footnote. Z1720 (talk) 16:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- i don't understand. In my opinion, it means the tain is the most elaborate description and it shown by the tain itself. Or did you mean we need citation that the Tain is the most elaborate one? Agus Damanik (talk) 16:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Agus Damanik: Yes. Wikipedia cannot state that the quoted text is the most elaborate description: that would be original research. Instead, a source needs to state that the quoted description is the most elaborate, and that source cited in the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can't find any resource that say most elaborate, but i find other reference. Do you mind to make it footnote, cause i don't know how. Thank you Agus Damanik (talk) 17:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Agus Damanik: Yes. Wikipedia cannot state that the quoted text is the most elaborate description: that would be original research. Instead, a source needs to state that the quoted description is the most elaborate, and that source cited in the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- i don't understand. In my opinion, it means the tain is the most elaborate description and it shown by the tain itself. Or did you mean we need citation that the Tain is the most elaborate one? Agus Damanik (talk) 16:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Agus Damanik: Does the citation verify that the subsequent quote is "The most elaborate description of his appearance"? I would also suggest putting "— Thomas Kinsella (translator), The Táin, Oxford University Press, 1969, pp. 156–158" into a footnote. Z1720 (talk) 16:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thomas Kinsella (translator), The Táin, Oxford University Press, 1969, pp. 156–158 Agus Damanik (talk) 15:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Agus Damanik: I added two cn tags. After looking at the lead, I think a brief sentence or two should be added about his cultural depictions. Z1720 (talk) 15:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
His Many Lovers
editThe text asserts that he was married to Emer but had many lovers - yrt there is a story called "the only jealosy of Emer" which asserts that his only other lover during his marriage was Aife. Could someone who understands this material expand the statement to accommodate what appears to me to be two different traditions? Perhaps giving source references?Thanks (Alan Jackson) ~2025-34422-00 (talk) 13:58, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Audio with pronunciation
editSounds like L2 Irish to me, definitely not fitting the IPA transcription that it accompanies. The palatalisation of /n̠ʲ/ is missing. Conversely, the /u/s are very fronted and English-like. Anonymous44 (talk) 13:25, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
For comparison, the pronunciation by BridEilis on forvo sounds like the real deal, palatalisation and all. But even there the other two pronunciations (by fagan and by DanielmatthewEffin) fail to palatalise. To his credit, fagan does admit that he has a non-native accent.--Anonymous44 (talk) 13:34, 15 June 2026 (UTC)