Talk:Angelo Rizzoli (publisher, born 1889)

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In 1927 Rizzoli founded company A. Rizzoli & Co.(later RCS MediaGroup) 92.72.100.49 (talk) 03:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:07, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

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Angelo Rizzoli → Angelo Rizzoli (publisher, born 1889) – I propose moving this article because there is also an article at Angelo Rizzoli (1943–2013), and neither subject appears to be the primary topic for this name. Accordingly, I also propose moving the other article to Angelo Rizzoli (publisher, born 1943). ~2026-38215-88 (talk) 22:56, 3 July 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 01:14, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-38215-88 No. Using only the birth year in the title implies that he is still alive. Lifespan should be in short description. Alternate means of disambiguation should be used, if needed. Blainster (talk) 09:16, 4 July 2026 (UTC)

• Support per nom, DAB by birthyear as standard and create DAB at basename.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:40, 4 July 2026 (UTC)

GA review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Angelo Rizzoli/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: ELindas (talk · contribs) 12:11, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: AdaCiccone (talk · contribs) 04:40, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

Hi, I'll be reviewing this one. Expect to hear from me by 16 July at the latest. AdaCiccone (talk) 04:40, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

I'm gonna have to quick-fail this nom because this article is a long way from meeting criterion 4 (neutrality).

The lead has an openly celebratory tone, saying Rizzoli brought "masterpieces" to the screen and describing his company as publishing the "best" authors. The publishing section continues this tone by asserting (worse, in Wikipedia's voice) that he possessed a "golden touch", made a major cultural contribution, achieved "incredible" success and displayed a "vision ahead of its time".

The personal-life section argues on his behalf. After discussing his extramarital affairs, the article qualifies his excuse by saying that it was "partly true," then reassures readers he treated his wife with the "utmost respect." Then it continues with affectionate nicknames, weekly roses and the construction of a hospital in her honour. Sounds like Wikipedia is adjudicating his character, not reporting what sources say.

The extensive account of the family after his death reads more like a moralised dynastic tragedy. It contrasts his supposed entrepreneurial qualities with heirs who allegedly lacked his "grit", made poorly considered decisions and were manipulated by "unscrupulous advisers". The article has a lot of space for eventual bankruptcies, arrests, illnesses, addictions, and suicides. This is clearly undue weight to events outside his lifetime; at the same time, it reinforces the article's rise-and-fall narrative.

Overall, I think the way the article is written now reads closer to a hagiographic biography than a neutral encyclopedic summary, with judgmental tone towards his descendants. To address all of the above, much of the article would need to be rewritten, opinions attributed, promotional and sentimental language removed, and the posthumous family material substantially reduced and rebalanced. I believe this obviously exceeds the scope of a normal GA hold, hence my decision to quick-fail this. Feel free to renominate after all of that has been addressed. AdaCiccone (talk) 02:26, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article-wide neutrality concerns

I added a neutrality tag because the article repeatedly uses promotional, sentimental and judgmental language in Wikipedia’s voice, including language/phrase like "masterpieces", "golden touch", "incredible success", "vision ahead of its time" and "utmost respect".

Furthermore, the article is structured as a rise-and-fall family narrative. Rizzoli is depicted as exceptionally talented and generous self-made businessman, while his descendants are described as lacking his entrepreneurial qualities and destroying his legacy through poor judgment. This tone continues to the extensive posthumous section by using language like "rapid decline", "beginning of the end", "without giving it much thought" and "tricked and manipulated".

I believe the tag should remain until the article’s overall tone, framing and balance have been addressed. AdaCiccone (talk) 02:43, 13 July 2026 (UTC)