Talk:27 Club

Re: club of 27, Wiki can add Allen Wilson, lead guitarist and vocalist (tenor) for Canned Heat, died at 27, of accidental barbiturate overdose

D.B. ~2026-10589-89 (talk) 01:40, 17 February 2026 (UTC)

How will adding Wilson to the article improve it? What will it tell the reader about the 27 Club, that isn't already there? --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 14:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2026

Add Alan (“The Blind Owl”) Wilson of the band Canned Heat to the page. He died in 1970 at the age of 27. He performed at Woodstock 1969 and was one of the most well-known blues-rock guitarists of the late 1960s. ~2026-25002-67 (talk) 05:47, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: See the discussion directly above this edit request, and the big red notice at the top of the talk page. Also, Wikipedia is not a reliable source on Wikipedia, per WP:CIRCULAR. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 06:06, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

References

Robert Johnson

I believe Robert Johnson who was a great influence in Blues music, was born in 1911, and died in 1938. So he died at 27, before anyone thought about a club. I understand this isn't about famous, or not famous people who died at 27. So not a cited source, according to the "27 Club". But amongst talented musicians, I feel he should be included. I understand if this is not worthy of inclusion, but wanted to suggest he might be eligible. ~2026-26681-25 (talk) 00:50, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-26681-25 He is eligible, but this article is not a membership list. It's a description of the club. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 05:01, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

If there was ever an article that needed a table, this is it

Readers who hear about the 27 Club will naturally be interested in a list of all musicians who died at age 27 from the Middle Ages to the present. So, it's encyclopedic. It's something that people will want to look up for reference. Why should someone be excluded because there's no source referring to them as a member of the 27 club. If you have a date of birth and a date of death, that should count as a source that they were 27 when they died. And it's just a list of musicians who died at age 27. Those are just neutral objective facts. Here's a person. The person was a musician. The person died at age 27. They get added to the list, so that people can look it up. Period. It's not any kind of a theory about why musicians die at age 27. It's just facts.

This Talk-Page is dominated by people who would probably rather this page didn't exist at all. Well, it does. It's something that people talk about. Why not age 26, or age 28? Because those are not clubs that people talk about or write about. The idea that people keep a list of those who died at age 27 does rely on something arbitrary, but it's not Wikipedia that is making the arbitrary choice there. It's the PUBLIC who (without logic) chose age 27. And when Wikipedia documents arbitrary choices made by the public, it's being encyclopedic because it's only documenting the objective fact that the public are concerned with the set of musicians (and not painters or dancers) who die at age 27 and will want access to a complete list of them. The public's choice to focus on age 27 may lack any logical foundation. But for Wikipedia to document the fact that the public makes choices that lack foundation does not itself lack a logical foundation. You can discuss the way illogical ideas work without the discussion itself being deemed illogical. I hope Wikipedia doesn't contain a demonstration that the Earth is flat. But Wikipedia SHOULD document that some people do believe that the Earth is flat, in sufficient numbers that they have conventions and websites. If what I'm saying makes sense then every article about witchcraft and alchemy should be purged.~2026-27756-09 (talk) 02:28, 8 May 2026 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson

@~2026-27756-09 This article is not List of people who died aged 27. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 05:08, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not, but it should be. Did you not read my argument? I came here for the specific purpose of looking up musicians who died at age 27, and I just didn't find that when I got here. And your "reference" to that list shows, when I hover over it, that it doesn't exist. Thanks a lot for telling me where to go, So to speak.~2026-27756-09 (talk) 11:10, 8 May 2026 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson

@~2026-27756-09: The article did formerly have a list of 27 Club members. You can see it in the article history -- for example, here.. It was removed during the discussion above, in the "Inane list of "members"" section. The current consensus seems to be to leave it out. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 06:14, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

References in Pop Culture

This should include the song "Der Rest Meines Lebens" by Kummer ft. Max Raabe. It's a well-known song in the German-speaking world, with over 30 million plays on Spotify. It discusses the singer's aging and fear that he has missed the chance to die young. The opening lyrics are:

"So langsam wird es knapp Den Club der 27 hab ich ziemlich klar verpasst"

meaning something like:

So the time is running out I pretty much missed the Club of 27... — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-27670-68 (talk) 08:25, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Given that Max Raabe doesn't so much as mention either the song or anything called Kummer (nor does the German version), there's no particular reason to include it. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 20:19, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Curt Cobain

I do believe that the death of C.C. is being investigated as noted in broadcasts by ABC, NBC, and BBC newscasts. ~2026-32414-76 (talk) 15:25, 31 May 2026 (UTC)