Talk:2025 Micronesian general election
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| On 30 August 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2025 Micronesian parliamentary election to 2025 Micronesian general election. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 30 August 2025
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Several other languages were proposed, however there appears to be universal consensus that the proposed name or proposed alternate names are improvements on the current name. Moving as proposed may be a tad of a WP:BARTENDER call, but there doesn't appear to be any strong opposition to it, and slightly more support than any single alternative option. As a handful of editors pointed out "congressional general election" may be more official, but the difference from the proposed title is minimal and the addition of "congressional" would harm concision and (AFAIK) break consistency with any similar articles.
As noted by Number57, there are other articles using this structure and this discussion will be applied accordingly to preserve consistency. (closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:19, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
2025 Micronesian parliamentary election → 2025 Micronesian general election – Google brings up sources that call it "congressional", "congressional general", "general", or just no qualifier. I think for consistency with other national elections in this vein it should just be "general" TheLoyalOrder (talk) 04:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Ophyrius (he/him
T • C • G) 12:23, 7 September 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 10:57, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support: Per consistency with other national election articles. I would also suggest the move of all of the election articles and not just this one, for consistency. TheBritinator (talk) 11:19, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- Two comments: Firstly, this is one of a series of 24 articles on parliamentary elections in Micronesia – they all need to be nominated as we can't move one but not the others (WP:CONSISTENT). Secondly, what 'consistency with other national elections in this vein' is there? Micronesia is a federal state and has an unusual political system that is somewhere between a presidential and parliamentary system. 'General election' (for parliamentary elections) tends to be used for constitutional monarchies and former British colonies that are now parliamentary republics. There is a small group of federal states that are not constitutional monarchies/former British colonies and do not have public presidential elections (which is the group Micronesia falls into), consisting of Germany, Ethiopia, Iraq, Somalia, Switzerland and the UAE. and these use federal (x2), parliamentary (x3) and general (x1). Outside of the constitutional monarchies and former British colonies, 'parliamentary elections' is the most common term (see Category:Parliamentary elections by country for a quick view of the different naming types). Based on our rather inconsistent use of titling, what is the justification on what basis does Micronesia fit into the 'general' rather than 'parliamentary' category? Cheers, Number 57 14:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- I figured i didn't need to nominate the others since whatever we decide would make the others uncontroversial moves.
- looking at sources that talk about micronesian elections that i could find on google
- By the far the most common is unqualified "election"
- Radio New Zealand "general election"
- Pacific Daily News (Guam) "congressional election" and "congressional general election"
- CNN "general election"
- FSM govt "national election"
- FSM National election office "congressional general election" and "national election".
- Actually based on official govt sources maybe it should be 2025 Micronesian congressional general election?
- Thoughts? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:12, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- i'll add i couldn't find "parliamentary election" used TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- I wasn't referring to what sources say, but what you said about in the move rationale about the move being for consistency with other articles. As far as I can see, there isn't any consistency (ironically there was just a discussion about the lack of consistency of election article naming in the E&R discord group). I don't think 'congressional general election' is a good idea as it's not very WP:CONCISE. I'm not sure I'm fussed either way on the parliamentary vs general proposal, but I was just intrigued by the claim about consistency given I can't see it. Cheers, Number 57 23:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- i'll add i couldn't find "parliamentary election" used TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- Move to "2025 Micronesian legislative election" (1st choice) or "2025 Micronesian general election" (2nd choice) or "2025 Congress of the Federated States of Micronesia election (3rd choice), then apply whatever to the rest to the series. Micronesia's legislature is at Congress of the Federated States of Micronesia, and is not called as a "parliament". Marshall Islands and Palau call theirs as "general election". I don't think we have entitled general elections as "congressional elections", but I won't oppose that. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:17, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- The third one is too long and likely unnecessary. TheBritinator (talk) 17:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- If it's going to be moved, I would say 'general' would be preferable to 'legislative' as it is more commonly used. Number 57 22:48, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- I agree. TheBritinator (talk) 13:33, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- If it's going to be moved, I would say 'general' would be preferable to 'legislative' as it is more commonly used. Number 57 22:48, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- The third one is too long and likely unnecessary. TheBritinator (talk) 17:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Micronesia, WikiProject Elections and Referendums, and WikiProject Federated States of Micronesia have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 10:57, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
