Talk:2022 University of Idaho murders

Put names of the 4 victims in lead section of article

Why isn't there a Wikipedia page on Bryan Christopher Kohberger?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8369:0:7C60:44BE:EA55:6833 (talk) 22:57, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

Staged deaths?

It is said to be going around on the internet that the Idaho 4 had their deaths staged. It is said that the Moscow Idaho police had let a drug cartel exist and sell drugs to college kids and this drug cartel blackmailed the Moscow idaho Police when two college students (Hannah Cleere and Hudson Lindow) had died from drug overdoses earlier in 2022. Kohberger is said to be a drug addict who volunteered to be framed for the staged murders of the Idaho 4 and in return the drug cartel would supply Kohberger with free heroin for the rest of his life in prison. Can this be added? ~2026-95607-3 (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

As stated on the IP's talk page, I don't want to get into an edit war on a talk page. Therefore, instead of reverting again, I will respond by stating that before adding this information above, which is clearly an unproved conspiracy theory, we need sources to support it. So no, it probably won't be added. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:39, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

First paragraph is not in an appropriate section

The first paragraph launches into the conclusion of the criminal case against Kohberger. It should not be where it is. ~2026-14041-51 (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Requested move 29 June 2026

2022 University of Idaho murders → University of Idaho murdersUniversity of Idaho murders – Why Fails: WP:NOYEAR. This is a very infamous and well known mass murder case. Partly due to the buzz on social media and when the perpetrator got caught. Possibly not a good reason, but the subsequent publicity makes it very well known: The trial and aftermath. ButteyFelicity (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:16, 7 July 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. In solidarity, Gommeh ^{(talk 🎮 sign)} 15:26, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NCWWW. Notability in of itself does not mean it does not need a year. Raskuly 🐰 15:42, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

  So theoretically that can be applied to Sandy Hook and Columbine? Both notable are events so they do need a year. Also forgetting; " In a historical perspective it can be without a year" ButteyFelicity (talk) 17:14, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

  • Both are notable events. Forgot the are. It's sorta backtracking against WP:NCWWW since notability is needed for an article to have no year. "Notability in of itself does not mean it does not need a year." That would nullify the guidelines itself.

  ButteyFelicity (talk) 17:16, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

  It is not worth an argument with you because you've made it clear that you believe every event, except for disambiguation, does not need a year. Raskuly 🐰 17:31, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

  Please refrain from the accusations. I have never said that, nor have I made it clear, your forgetting when I do accept it and just using the times I do as an example. I get your frustrated, but please, layoff the accusations and frustrations at me. I do not appreciate whenever another one voices it and will not you. Please if you have something against my opinion add a topic to my talk page so we can discuss it normally instead of us bickering here. Cheers. ButteyFelicity (talk) 18:30, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

  Perhaps I should have said "almost every", not "every". Also, I would never support a move like that for Sandy Hook or Columbine and I've wrote that before. Until I do, that point is moot. Raskuly 🐰 01:58, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

  Please do not taunt me or provoke me. That is against the rules. This is a rather low blow also singling me out. Like I said, please put a message on my talk page so we can talk about maturely. But like you said notability does not mean it does not need a year. My opinion on it still stands firm. Also look up 1980 Winnetka Attacks and my proposal on years on the ncwww. I support it for events like Las Vegas and fort hood. Now good day. ButteyFelicity (talk) 14:32, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

I feel like there should be a different title altogether for this. The victims were all students at the University of Idaho, but they were murdered off-campus in a private residence in Moscow, Idaho. Calling it the "University of Idaho murders" isn't a good descriptive title. It ought to be using either "University of Idaho student murders" or "Moscow, Idaho, student murders".

As for the year in the title it's a bit hard to evaluate due to WP:RECENTISM, I'd keep it for now and revisit the question later down the line when the dust has settled some more. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 19:21, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree that the current title is not ideal. 2022 Idaho student murders? 2022 Idaho university murders? Raskuly 🐰 20:49, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

I was thinking about 2022 Idaho student murders but I didn't know whether or not it would be considered specific enough, but honestly it might be sufficient here (especially considering "Moscow, Idaho" might not actually be helping the "where" part of WP:NCWWW that much), and I would support it over the current title. I think 2022 Idaho university murders has the same problem as the current title though (not to say that you shouldn't have brought it up as an option, as I very much appreciate brainstorming ideas for a title). –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 22:06, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

I shouldn't have? I'm confused. When searching the case, "Idaho student murders" comes up a lot, but that might be because a documentary was made about the murders with that title. In that case, 2022 also helps for disambiguation. Raskuly 🐰 22:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

What? Nay! The opposite! There is a double negative: "not to say that you should not have", as in "I dislike 2022 Idaho university murders, but I like that you brought it up for consideration and thank you for it." –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 23:06, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread your reply (multiple times actually). 😅 Raskuly 🐰 23:08, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

• I would support University of Idaho student murders (added the word 'student' before 'murders' to make it less vague). Some1 (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

  will change it~ ButteyFelicity (talk) 19:40, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

Oppose per WP:NOYEAR. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:08, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

"in the majority of cases, the title of the article should contain the following three descriptors: When the incident happened. Where the incident happened. What happened." PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:12, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Thoughts on moving it to some form of "student murders" instead? –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 18:16, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Idaho, WikiProject Death, and WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 20:14, 7 July 2026 (UTC)

Relisting comment: alt. titles proposed: 2022 Idaho student murders, University of Idaho student murders (which might be controversial per WP:NOYEAR) ASUKITE 20:16, 7 July 2026 (UTC)

Post-relist alternative title discussion

• Move to 2022 Idaho student murders as the current title isn't ideal as it implies that the murders took place at the University of Idaho. This proposal still provides a general location without getting really wordy (like Moscow, Idaho, student murders) and follows how many RSs describe the incident. A few sources also call it the "Idaho college murders", but college is different from university, and to me still implies that it happened on some kind of campus somewhere. Raskuly 🐰 08:47, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting as this could potentially be contentious. A *very* rough consensus leans toward opposing the move, but let's wait for more input before deciding. In solidarity, Gommeh ^{(talk 🎮 sign)} 15:26, 15 July 2026 (UTC)