Talk:2024 United States presidential election
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"presidential elections" (plural)
editwhy does the first sentence refer to elections plural? (this seems to be wikip standard, looking at 2020 as well) skakEL 18:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- There are no national public elections in the United States. Each state holds its own presidential election, which actually selects electors. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at my answer again, I realize that it may still not be clear. To rephrase, there is no singular presidential election, there are 51 separate elections (50 states plus DC) the results of which are compiled to determine the winner of the presidency. Thus, the plural is the appropriate form to use. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Language should defer to what is predominant by native speakers. As a literate and politics-following US citizen for over 70 years, I have NEVER seen or heard any person, or any media outlet, refer to "the [year] US Presidential Elections". That isn't how it is referred to. "Election" refers to a SINGLE YEAR's election. "Elections" refers to MULTIPLE YEARS, or to the CATEGORY (e.g. US Constitution reference to "Presidential Elections".) Please yield your POV to actual usage. ToolmakerSteve (talk) 21:36, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- Minor correction: I see that Fox News refers to "2024 Presidential Elections", to emphasize the state-by-state nature of it. This seems to be a relatively recent wording. Searching both with and without plural form, this is definitely a MINORITY usage of language. Given two alternatives, my POV is that Wikipedia should go with the long-standing language usage, at least at this time. ToolmakerSteve (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- Another correction: my mention of US Constitution "presidential elections" was from an annotation related to 12th amendment at constitution.congress.gov; the constitution itself doesn't have a term for the election(s) as a whole. Still, my point stands: the plural term was used because it was describing all elections over time, not the state-by-state process of a given year's election. ToolmakerSteve (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- Language should defer to what is predominant by native speakers. As a literate and politics-following US citizen for over 70 years, I have NEVER seen or heard any person, or any media outlet, refer to "the [year] US Presidential Elections". That isn't how it is referred to. "Election" refers to a SINGLE YEAR's election. "Elections" refers to MULTIPLE YEARS, or to the CATEGORY (e.g. US Constitution reference to "Presidential Elections".) Please yield your POV to actual usage. ToolmakerSteve (talk) 21:36, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at my answer again, I realize that it may still not be clear. To rephrase, there is no singular presidential election, there are 51 separate elections (50 states plus DC) the results of which are compiled to determine the winner of the presidency. Thus, the plural is the appropriate form to use. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
False claim with no source
edit"and his public embrace and celebration of the January 6 United States Capitol attack,"
This is a ridiculously biased framing that is entirely false, and has no source. ~2026-27098-44 (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I mean, he pardoned them all. Seems like he thinks they were all just peaceful visitors. ~2026-37832-59 (talk) 01:54, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Wait, my bad. He called it a 'day of love'.
- https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgnxej1dn0o ~2026-37832-59 (talk) 01:55, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
The 2024 United States Presidential Election
editAnd how come when I open up the 2024 United States Presidential Election on Wikipedia it says a problem occurred because when I normally open up the 2024 United States Presidential Election on Wikipedia it does not say a problem occurred. Suchi Sobel (talk) 13:24, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Trump's portrait
editWe reached a deal to use current presidential photo.
User talk:~2026-23619-91 Look at that. ~2026-28224-34 (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
Not done I do not see any form of official consensus supporting the change of Trump’s portrait at all. We have discussed through this specific topic several times, and the consensus is in support of the current use of the 2025 inaugural portrait.- Because this topic has been constantly added despite the clear consensus, I believe this topic should just be removed or archived immediately. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 16:50, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Tagged users involved in this user’s talk page just in case: @Realtent, @Sipik06 KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 16:51, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- According to Talk:2024 United States presidential election/Archive 14#RfC: Infobox Trump's main photo, I agree there has been repeatedly no consensus and we should stop trying to gain consensus. I will probably be reverting all of the changes in line with the RFC. @~2026-28224-34 (or ~2026-23619-91), please do not change it back. Realtent (talk) 18:40, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Tagged users involved in this user’s talk page just in case: @Realtent, @Sipik06 KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 16:51, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
NEW PORTRAIT! / RfC: Infobox Trump's main photo
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Inaugural portrait, 2025
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New official portrait, 2026
In Donald Trump's second term, his portraits have lacked his top body, something his previous portraits didn't have a problem with. The only time he has had a full portrait is a black & white one for the Smithsonian.
Five days ago, Daniel Torok released a new photo of Donald Trump, posing for a portrait at the Resolute Desk. I'd like to start a new consensus to use the portrait across the elections here. It's colorful, it's crisp, and it isn't angled weird like Trump's inaugural portrait.
DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:40, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- On that note, I'd also like to extend this out to other articles with Trump; I'd like to use the new photo for other articles using Trump's portrait as well. DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:43, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- User:KagedCroc1, what do you think? DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- For next time, if you want to propose in image change like this, please discuss on the talk page before you change the image in various other articles. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:46, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- My apologies DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- For next time, if you want to propose in image change like this, please discuss on the talk page before you change the image in various other articles. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:46, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- There has been enough consensus to support the 2025 inaugural portrait (see: Talk:2024 United States presidential election/Archive 19#Trump's infobox picture)
- Also, are you, the uploader, fully sure that the 2026 portrait is official? The only source (that I can find) of this photo is on X. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:45, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- It's also Daniel Torok's Instagram as well. https://www.instagram.com/p/DZJT9PuMMCg/?igsh=bXBqYXJ1ZG96YTNp
- I think the fact that official White House account uploaded it would make it pretty official, as well as the fact that Torok the photographer, who's an employee of the federal government, made it public as well.
- "There has been enough consensus to support the 2025 inaugural portrait" Can we reopen that consensus? DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:48, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Yes we can, but I personally doubt that a new consensus will support this proposed image. (One reason because the inaugural portrait is specifically closer to the time period of the election.) KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:52, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wasn't Trump's 2017 portrait taken in October of that year, as opposed to his inaugural portrait that was taken on December 2016? There's precedent that we usually go with the portraits. DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:54, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- The 2016 image is not in the public domain and was thus removed from Wikipedia earlier. Otherwise, it would have been a better image to use. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:57, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Fair enough DougheGojiraMan (talk) 20:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- The 2016 image is not in the public domain and was thus removed from Wikipedia earlier. Otherwise, it would have been a better image to use. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:57, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wasn't Trump's 2017 portrait taken in October of that year, as opposed to his inaugural portrait that was taken on December 2016? There's precedent that we usually go with the portraits. DougheGojiraMan (talk) 19:54, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Yes we can, but I personally doubt that a new consensus will support this proposed image. (One reason because the inaugural portrait is specifically closer to the time period of the election.) KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 19:52, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Why would we use a picture from 2026 to illustrate the 2024 election? Heck, why are we using the 2025 inauguration portrait? Neither one of these is from the election. Neither of them should be used on this page. Find a picture from the election. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:09, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- The 2025 inaugural portrait is used because no other (suitable) image is set closer to the election. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 16:52, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've seen plenty of images from during the election that seemed fine. And, again, as it does not actually depict the events, the current image is definitively not suitable for this article. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:55, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- The 2025 inaugural portrait is used because no other (suitable) image is set closer to the election. KagedCroc1 ⭐️ 16:52, 8 June 2026 (UTC)