Talk:Louis Alphonse de Bourbon

"as such"

"As such" appears more than once in this text. "As such", particularly when such has no clear antecedent, improves every sentence from which it is removed.

Riots put Louis-Alphonse in the news

When a statue of King Louis XVI was vandalized in the Antifa-Black Lives Matter riots, Louis-Alphonse got into the news by posting on Twitter about it. The king financed the U.S. revolution and was thanked by getting the city of Louisville named after him. See "Twitter Unites to Roast an Heir of Louis XVI Who Weighed in on America’s Protests." Of course, Louis-Alphonse is descended from Louis XIV, not Louis XVI. Allan Rice (talk) 00:48, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

By my reckoning he is also the Lancastrian heir to the English crown, by his descent from John of Gaunt, but this could be OR.PatGallacher (talk) 09:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Why is this article given his civil name?

His “rival”, the Orléanist pretender, has an article titled Jean, Count of Paris and there in the royal titles and styles he pretends to are noted. In this article they seem to be obscured. If this article isn’t at Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou shouldn’t the other similarly be moved to Jean d’Orléans? Either moving this article or the other would preserve the neutral point of view given both claim the prerogatives of the kings of France. Charles 14:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

The question that needs to be addressed is, what is the legal nature of his titles? If they are actually recognized by France, as opposed to being a courtesy title used by monarchists, then we should probably move the article. Otherwise it's fine where it is. And FWIW, I agree that there does seem to be a discrepancy between the two pages. The guidelines for naming articles about royalty and aristocrats are found at WP:NCROY. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Neither "neutrality" or "legal nature" are the most important issues. Biographical articles on English Wikipedia are named according to how an individual is commonly referred to in English-language sources. If a case can be made that "Jean, Count of Paris" is more commonly known in English-language sources as "Jean d'Orléans" or as "Jean, comte de Paris", then the article should be moved. If a case can be made that "Louis Alphonse de Bourbon" is more commonly known in English-language sources as "Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou" (or just Louis), then the article should be moved. See Wikipedia:Article_titles#Non-neutral_but_common_names. (Nice to know that Charles is still alive and kicking). Noel S McFerran (talk) 15:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Indeed, I am! Charles 22:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Royal title of decent

King Henry II of France was my 15th Great Grandfather ... 24.89.254.217 (talk) 21:19, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

And your point is? Dimadick (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

This gives him an ancient manorial right to park anywhere in Paris without paying. 2A00:23C7:E287:1901:451C:34A1:782D:BAB5 (talk) 04:43, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

On the heir apparent, the Duke of Burgundy

In November 2017, DrKay reduced the article for the heir of the Duke of Anjou, Prince Louis, Duke of Burgundy, to a redirect to Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou#Marriage and children, giving the edit summary "nothing here that isn't there". However, at that time, this article did not state the titles and styles in pretence of the Duke of Burgundy. Then again, the current article no longer gives the titles and styles in pretence of the Duke of Anjou (as it did in November 2017), so perhaps the issue is moot. Nonetheless, I note that there used to exist an article for the Duke of Burgundy.

The {{s-inc}} and {{s-vac}} transclusions in this article's succession box both link to the Wikipédia article fr:Louis de Bourbon (2010). Should the article for Prince Louis, Duke of Burgundy be restored (and expanded), such that non-Francophones can read about him? (There are also Wikipedia articles on him in Indonesian, Russian, and Spanish, FWIW.) 0DF (talk) 16:41, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

No. There's nothing transferable from those articles that isn't already in this article. DrKay (talk) 18:00, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

@DrKay: Sorry; please clarify what you're saying "no" to. 0DF (talk) 19:09, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

"Should the article for Prince Louis, Duke of Burgundy be restored (and expanded)?" DrKay (talk) 21:31, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

@DrKay: Thank you for the clarification. There are some notable facts I see in those Wikipedia articles which I should like, therefore, to add to this article. Would there be any objection to my doing so? 0DF (talk) 01:23, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

There would obviously be objections because I've already objected above. DrKay (talk) 07:18, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

No, there's nothing so valuable in the other language articles that would warrant a standalone. JoelleJay (talk) 18:50, 12 January 2026 (UTC)