Talk:Joe Baggs

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ello @Launchballer got this one ready and raring to go, think it just needs a little more info George (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Sure, I can take a look at this. (Need more research to see if it's the same person, but this article about a Joe Baggs mentions a Demetris Christophy, who I'm pretty certain used to work at Overton Grange School, which is where I went. As did Ruchee from Love Island (2015 TV series) series 10.)--Launchballer 17:12, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

(And Tennessee Thresher, who was on Not My Bagg, and it was the same person.) Where did you get "In 2022, Baggs began an online social media presence, particularly on TikTok where he would post comedic sketches, pop culture commentary, and lifestyle content. Joe then hosted a slot on BBC Radio 1 on Christmas Day 2022, alongside his brother.[18] In September 2022, Baggs launched the weekly podcast Not My Bagg[19], co-hosted with his brother George and sometimes their mother, Lisa.[20]", because it doesn't seem to be in Digital Spy or Deadline?--Launchballer 22:08, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

haha small world! what are the chances! also i just got those parts from looking at the first episodes of the podcast on apple podcasts & looked at his tiktok and that's what he makes, didn't pull that info from anywhere George (talk) 11:09, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

I think that's getting quite close to original research. It should probably come out.--Launchballer 17:57, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Have removed it! George (talk) 13:58, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected, closed by NeoGaze (talk) 21:45, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that Joe Baggs once watched a dating show with massive full-frontal nudity for another TV show?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thea Ehre

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk) and Georgeykiwi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 373 past nominations.

Launchballer 21:40, 27 February 2026 (UTC).

An AFD has been opened. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:54, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Giving this a proper review while waiting for the AFD. Article is new enough and long enough. Hook fact is... something. Might get pushback for DYK:GRAT reasons. QPQ is done (double hook). Copyvio tool finds no issues. So basically, looks like we are waiting on the AFD, though I'd like to see some alts if possible.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:18, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Joe Baggs was filmed watching TV for three series? springs to mind.--Launchballer 07:31, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

• Thanks. That looks good; once the AFD is closed, we can finalize the review.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Crisco 1492: The AFD was closed as no consensus, so this can now move forward. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:14, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

• Thanks for the ping. Signing off. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:40, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Promoter query: @Launchballer, Narutolovehinata5, and Crisco 1492: I prefer ALT1 but it doesn't quite read correctly to me. Filmed watching TV for three series of what? I'm assuming Gogglebox, so we could just say that, but I wanted to ask if you'd prefer to reword to make it a bit more 'mysterious' as I think adding Gogglebox makes it less interesting and enticing. SnowyRiver28 (talk) 10:45, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

• I personally would leave Gogglebox out of it, for the sake of simplicity. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:46, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Completely forgot I proposed ALT1, but I think that both the name of the programme and the medium on which it was broadcast would be eligible for trimming.--Launchballer 14:28, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

What would that look like in a hook? Are my concerns regarding the current ALT1 not quite making sense understandable? SnowyRiver28 (talk) 07:09, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

You're saying "three series of what". I'm saying the "what" is extraneous.--Launchballer 10:30, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Just going to note here, in case it helps, that the British "series" here is equivalent to the American "season".  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:02, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't mean adding the what as a part of the hook, I meant it's unclear to me what 'filmed for three series' means; it doesn't quite make sense at first glance. SnowyRiver28 (talk) 03:45, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

"Filmed" as in "recorded", as in you might film animals for a nature documentary. ALT0 remains approved.--Launchballer 23:28, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

I know what filmed means, what I’m trying to say is that the phrasing of the second half of the hook seems incomplete and doesn’t make sense. Perhaps some other editors can weigh in here and we’ll see if it’s just my reading of it that’s causing me confusion. SnowyRiver28 (talk) 02:04, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

I understand that "series" is the common terminology in British English, but "series" can be ambiguous for most of the world. Even though we tend to prefer local English whenever possible, this could be an IAR case where the American term is preferred since the American sense is well-known enough in Britain anyway. Having said that, even if the hook was changed to something like "... that Joe Baggs was filmed watching TV for three seasons of the show Gogglebox", I'm not sure if that works either. I'm hesitant about ALT0 due to DYKGRAT issues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

ALT1a: ... that Joe Baggs was filmed watching TV for three seasons of a TV show?--Launchballer 02:23, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

I've been thinking about ALT0 and ALT1a, and I'm starting to think that both angles are unworkable due to being confusing. Both ultimately mean "he watched TV for TV", but in what capacity? Were the shows he filmed (the family ones) primarily about them watching TV for TV purposes? It's explained in the article, but as written, neither hook expresses that point well. The elephant in the room with ALT0 is also the gratuitousness, but even without that the confusion issue remains. Given this is past time out, I would recommend this being marked for closure unless a completely different angle can be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:34, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

The only other hooks I can think of would be to do with him launching a drag queen persona or that he made his first TV appearances with his family. I maintain that the "in what capacity" is excessive detail for the hook.--Launchballer 16:06, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Sometimes, hook facts are simply too complex to be adequately explained in a hook, especially if no matter how it's worded, it reads awkwardly. I wonder if this just has to be let go unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:10, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

It's a shame CelebMix is questionable since I could have tacked it on to Max Balegde (since he was part of that). The only other suggestion I can think of is ALT1b: ... that a TV series broadcast several seasons of Joe Baggs and others watching TV?, so unless @Georgeykiwi: has any suggestions, this might be another 'bring-it-back-through-GA' jobby.--Launchballer 19:00, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

Could we possibly link the TV to their podcast and do something along the lines of ALT1c: ... that due to the success of their TV appearances, Joe Baggs and family started a podcast? George (talk) 19:23, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

That a minor TV personality started a podcast is quite possibly one of the least unusual or intriguing facts imaginable. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

I asked at WP:RSN re CelebMix.--Launchballer 19:34, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Given concerns about sourcing and how this is already past DYKTIMEOUT, I am timing this out, without prejudice against renominating once it is brought to GA. Bringing to GA should also address any outstanding concerns and may even lead to new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:45, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

There have never been any concerns regarding this article's sourcing because CelebMix has never been in this article. If RSN clears that source, would you object to me adding this to Max Balegde?--Launchballer 04:12, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

Even without the sourcing issues (since that appears to be a different nomination), the other issue is the hooks. ALT1c was objected to, and even ALT1b is weak though usable. I think that bringing this to GA, even if it means a later run, would be a better option, since such an expansion would also likely mean more hook options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:18, 2 May 2026 (UTC)