Wikipedia talk:Days of the year

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RfC on Day of the Year lead lengths

Please see an open RfC on DOY article lead lengths here: Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates § RfC on the leads of DOY articles and their FL eligibility voorts (talk/contributions) 23:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Anniversaries

To some leaders of a certain ilk, anniversaries have a talismanic nature. Just stating facts for the record. Bearian (talk) 06:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Self-declared days and WP:EVENTDOY

I'm seeing a proliferation of events being added to DOY articles such as World Heart Day that have been established by random groups around the world to promote their cause by declaring a named day. I'm thinking we should probably exclude these self-promoted days of declaration/promotion. Thoughts? Toddst1 (talk) 14:08, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

I think our existing guidance is sufficient to filter out the most problematic cases. If the event doesn't have a standalone article, we wouldn't include it in a DOY article. If it has a standalone article, it presumably has some secondary coverage and mainstream acceptance, otherwise it should probably be merged or deleted. I worry that changing the criteria as proposed would exclude too many notable holidays, many of which were initially established by random groups trying to promote a cause. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: It doesn't seem like you have contributed much if at all to Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year. Am I missing something? Toddst1 (talk) 21:10, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Much, no. At all, yes! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:50, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

I've not got a massive preference either way but I'm leaning towards keeping them as long as they've got articles like our current guidance states although maybe sourcing should be a bit stricter. We could perhaps restrict them to name days which have had significant events related to them rather than just having passing mentions which prove they exist. On the other hand, there are holidays sections in some of our pages which are very small and include very little other than a list of Christian saints, including name days could make the pages a little less biased. Suonii180 (talk) 10:11, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

What are "days of the year articles"?

Silly question, but I really don't know what "days of the year articles" are. Articles like January 1 through December 31? Or 1900, 2025, etc.? Or something else? I think this should be explained in the first one or two sentences of the article. Thanks! — Chrisahn (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

• @Chrisahn: This WikiProject only covers 1 January-31 December while year articles are covered by Wikipedia:WikiProject Years. Suonii180 (talk) 14:10, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

  Thanks, but that doesn't solve the problem. The problem is that the first sentence of this page currently says "the days of the year articles should include ...", but the reader isn't told which articles are meant by that term. I guess that's OK if this page is only meant to be read by people who already know the term, e.g. members of the project. But if you want this page to be read and understood by other editors as well, you should explain what you mean by the term. At least with a few words in the first sentence(s), or by adding "i.e. the articles January 1 through December 31". That's why I started this section. — Chrisahn (talk) 14:31, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

  I went ahead and copied the definition by example from the project page. I hope that's ok. — Chrisahn (talk) 14:35, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Proposed exception for first/last dates of ranges wherein holidays may fall

I have recently been informed that it is impermissible to include in November 28 text to the effect of:

• In the United States, Thanksgiving is observed on the fourth Thursday of November. Because November 1 can fall on any day of the week, the latest possible date for Thanksgiving is November 28, which occurs in years when November 1 falls on a Friday, approximately 1/7 of the time.

I propose that the rule should be changed to allow for constructions like this, for holidays on the Gregorian calendar that fall on a set date within a range of dates to indicate the earliest and latest dates on which they can fall. BD2412 T 02:36, 13 February 2026 (UTC) BD2412 T 02:36, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Notable birthdays eligibility.

I attempted to add Nickolas Ashford (born May 4, 1941) of Ashford & Simpson fame, to May 4 birthdays section, but was notified that Ashford needed a separate entry for himself to be considered notable enough for inclusion.

Really? The notability of Ashford & Simpson is obvious enough. They were inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame, having written "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" and "Solid", amongst other songs. They were inducted as Grammy Trustees, like Bacharach & David, and Gamble & Huff, and Lieber & Stoller.

And what applies to Ashford will also apply to Simpson, I assume. Turtlens (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

References

Is there a question in there? Toddst1 (talk) 05:11, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

Can "Subject of a Wikipedia article" mean a chapter in a Wikipedia article?

I attempted to add an event (assassination attempt) about a notable figure that has a Heading / chapter / section on his Wikipedia page devoted to the event of the assassination attempt. Sometimes, rather than make an entirely new article, people add chapters to Wikipedia pages referring to important historical events, and I thought that sometimes when people click on a link to that event, it redirects them directly to that chapter/section of that person/place/event's Wiki page. Could that be acceptable enough to count as the event being the "subject of a Wikipedia article"? ShepGlennon (talk) 02:29, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Shep's question relates to a discussion they and I had recently. What they mean by "Heading /chapter / section" is the section Vernon Jordan#Assassination attempt in the article Vernon Jordan.

I'd have to say that, as well as not being a separate article, an attempted assassination (or should it be referred to as a murder?) which he survived does not merit an entry in May 29. Kiwipete (talk) 03:17, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

The question I am curious about here is whether or not the heading/chapter/section could qualify as the "subject of a Wikipedia article" - just following up on your advice to see what folks here might say regarding that specific issue. If we want to argue for an against whether or not an assassination attempt merits its own event, or whether or not it should be termed an attempted murder, I feel as though that should be its own topic, as I have a lot to say about both (other people have entire Wiki articles devoted to their assassination attempts (and they're not even heads of state); CNN interrupted their inaugural program to cover the story, which shows its merit; the fact that an assassination attempt by a Klansman on a civil rights leader could happen in the 1980s is batshit crazy; calling it an attempted murder ignores the fact that this man had a list of people to assassinate, including Larry Flynt of Hustler Magazine for depicting interracial porn; everyone in America that notes this event calls it an "assassination attempt" - from Indiana's Ball State University to ABC News which literally has a "This Day in History" story covering it - showing that it is an important historical event - just two days ago)

So I can make my own Wikipedia article on the assassination attempt so it can meet the guidelines definitively, and if you try reclassifying it as an "attempted murder" or by saying "oh well he didn't actually die so it wasn't that important" (when you said "which he survived") - When didn't mention any of these reasons before - do you understand how that can come across as both downplaying the event and changing the goalposts? ShepGlennon (talk) 07:10, 1 June 2026 (UTC)