Mungo Kitsch

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User:Mungo Kitsch/Guides/List of United States gubernatorial election articles without general results by county

I just want to thank you for compiling this user guide. I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty of updating the list myself. A similar guide for US Senate elections would be great for the future. GigachadGigachad (talk) 22:16, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

@GigachadGigachad: Thanks very much for the kind and encouraging words. And yes, I agree that an equivalent list for the US Senate would be useful. As well as, for that matter, such a list for the House of Representatives (which would be much longer, due to the frequency of such elections, and how they have been truly democratic processes since the 18th century). I plan on eventually submitting both such lists, with the Senate list coming sooner. In terms of length, it won't hurt that few Senate elections were democratic in nature before 1914, thus preemptively truncating the potential length of the list and state sublists. Once I get more worked on with my NBA player stats list, I plan on embarking on the Senate list likely sometime in 2026, probably in the middle of the year.

I saw the nine such county tables you subtracted from the gubernatorial list, and am certainly appreciative of that and appreciate you adding their vote stat tables by county. I intend the list on being a community effort, meaning of course that you and anyone can feel free to contribute to the listed articles anytime and subtract from the list once respective tables are submitted. It's really cool that you add a lot to the electoral politics pages around here, and I look forward to seeing your efforts continue, including but not limited to the list above.

Feel free to give me feedback anytime, and likewise I will drop you a line when I get the Senate list completed.

Mungo Kitsch (talk) 06:49, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

User:Mungo Kitsch/Guides/List of United States gubernatorial election articles without general results by county (2)

I'm currently working on getting several of the Nebraska articles on the list updated. However, it is extremely difficult to do because the state has 93 counties. Additionally, other states have a large amount of counties, like Iowa at 99, which may be almost impossible to do with all of them. Is there a more efficient way of making the tables or not? ^Wiinter_U 04:44, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

@WiinterU: Hi, and thanks for giving me a message over this. I see what you did on many of the more recent Nebraska gubernatorial election pages, and that is certainly a good start.

As for a more efficient way of creating these tables, I definitely get where you're coming from. I don't believe it is impossible to do the tables with multitudes of counties, but it is tedious and time-consuming, for sure; especially for the likes of Georgia and Texas.

I had to chew it over for a while, and I have several steps I can advise so as to increase efficiency while creating these stat tables.

1. Copy and paste all new tables from a preexisting completed one. That way, I believe it is easier to manage, say, cell colors and candidate columns working from a preexisting table, as opposed to creating such a table from scratch.
2. Beause of the very tedious nature of these tables; I recognize that for states such as Nebraska, Indiana, Virginia (with its independent cities); it is an extremely tall order to do any given table of 50+ counties in one setting. One way in which I accommodate this aspect is to create the tables in phases by using a personal sandbox. I personally have a first and a second sandbox for this and other purposes. I invite you to see the editing history I have performed, particularly for the second sandbox. That way, transcribing these tables can be more manageable by being performed in smaller chunks. (One nugget of wisdom that could help with this and other tall tasks: You can only eat the entire pizza with one bite at a time.)
   1. Alternately, you could do the same as #2, but do so on the respective article page. If you choose this phased option on articles, however, make sure to add an {{under construction|date=month/year}} tag at the top of either the "by county" section or the top of the article generally.
3. If you do these tables in sections, and decide at a certain point to leave the task for whatever reason; make sure that the last transcribed row and the first of the remaining non-transcribed rows have a reasonably discernible visual difference. See this edit, which easily demarcates that the last transcribed row features Democrat (or DFL, in this case) and Republican rows switched from the copied table, an alphabetical breah of the county names, and blank cells for third-party candidates not applicable to the older copied table.
4. One more option, instead of coding the tables on Wikipedia, is to transcribe/code the county table on Microsoft Excel. While I personally mostly transcribe the tables on the Wikipedia space, I used the excel option for the very crazy county table on 2016 Indiana Republican presidential primary. If you know the right Excel coding, such as =F15/V15, or =B26+D26+F26+H26+J26+L26+N26+P26+R26 to name two examples, then some of the math you would otherwise do manually would instead be automatically figured out by the Excel coding itself. Thanks to Excel, I was able to remove days, maybe even a week or two from the duration of the 2016 Indiana primary table project I was working on. I think of all the pieces of numbered info I've given you here, this one may be the most impactful way to make creating these and similar tables more efficient, so long as you are willing to wikify the data when transporting it from Excel to Wikipedia.

That is what I come up with at the moment. In a few days, I'm happy to do a Nebraska table on a governor election page, so that I can do at least a small part in advancing that ball down the hill. Perhaps having a statewide empty template to copy and paste for all 50 states could be useful for these electoral politics pages.

Let me know if my response and its advice helps you, and feel free to drop me a line here anytime.

Mungo Kitsch (talk) 08:48, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I've got some Excel formulas that can create tables like these in wikitext. It also has some time-saving features such as automatically calculating percentages, margins, and color-coding counties (it produces a table like this.) Would you like me to share it on the list's talk page for others to use? Longestview (talk) 03:48, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

@Longestview: Hi, thanks for coming to me about this. Yes, I would love for you to add the wikitext on the list's talk page. The coding that would automatically calculate the percentages and totals would be, and is, a tremendous resource for Wikipedia. It would especially be useful for statewide elections of states with many counties, such as in Texas, Georgia, Virginia, etc. By the way, it is quite effective that you used a chart related to, of all states, Texas with its 254 counties.

Worth noting is that I am presently working on a past statewide election in Missouri, and its 114 counties and one independent city (and Kansas City, which is in four counties) are really kicking my butt right now. Once that county vote table is complete, it'll be the biggest one I've ever completed.

In short, yes, you do have my permission to post the code on the election list's talk page. Typing this all out by hand does discourage a lot of other editors from wanting to do tasks like this, as you have likely seen above with my interaction with WiinterU (talk · contribs). So yes, Wikipedians having the option of our own version of an excel sheet is certainly worthwhile. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 06:23, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Massive table of pages needed for college basketball

I see that you have created some very extensive checklists. At WP:CBBALL, we would be well served by a table that summarized what we need for each school: There are 4 general articles that might be useful for each school. Seasons (E.g., UNC seasons), Statistical leader (E.g. UNC leaders), head coaches (E.g UNC head coaches), NBA draftees (E.g. UNC draftees). Also it might be helpful to have a list of school season articles needed too. E.g., these copied from Template:North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball navbox

• 1917–18
• 1918–19
• 1919–20
• 1920–21
• 1928–29
• 1929–30
• 1930–31
• 1931–32
• 1932–33
• 1933–34
• 1934–35
• 1935–36
• 1936–37
• 1937–38
• 1938–39
• 1939–40
• 1940–41
• 1941–42
• 1942–43
• 1943–44
• 1944–45
• 1946–47
• 1947–48
• 1948–49
• 1949–50
• 1950–51
• 1951–52
• 1952–53
• 1955–56
• 1957–58
• 1958–59
• 1959–60
• 1960–61

I am just mentioning this to you since you are one who has created massive basketball checklists.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:04, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger: I have noticed in the past that quite a few college basketball teams, both on the men's and women's sides, have large swathes of individual seasons without their own articles here. I agree that such coverage is well-needed on Wikipedia. And with as much public interest as college basketball has, having more of these season pages and pages of the other varieties you described would be massively helpful to the public.

This list on College Basketball Sports Reference would be very useful to construct a list involving all D-1 colleges. At present, there are 495 and 380 colleges/universities for men's and women's basketball respectively. Those would be tremendously large lists, but nothing I haven't done before. As well, the red links in navbox templates, such as the Tar Heels season list you copied and pasted from, already indicate strongly some of the coverage needed here. The list I'd think about making would be, instead of college team season red links, perhaps a list of college team seasons needing stats, which would inevitably include pages that don't exist yet and would therefore serve as a de facto likewise red-link list.

I will be forward about the fact that I have more vested interest in NBA than college basketball, but your post does give me a lot more material to work with for future list ideas. As I previously stated, a centralized group of list detailing the (un)created pages, or info - i.e. stats - on already existent pages, would certainly benefit here, and I'm glad you approached me about this. While I plan on my next relevant list to involve articles related to the U.S. Senate, I'll keep your post around as a reference for future lists, and I'll let you know if/when I do construct one or more of what you requested.

By the way, I just added my first seasonal box score for a team last month, via this edit at 1977–78 Evansville Purple Aces men's basketball team. That is a task I have not performed yet even for an NBA team. But I felt that I wanted to for that Evansville Purple Aces roster, because considering the team's tragic and horrible end combined with their unrealized potential, I as a Wikipedian wanted to give some respect to the team not just as basketball players but as people who are still remembered. Tragedy aside, adding season-long box scores to likewise pages, both for NBA and college teams, is something I bet I'll do more often in a few years, particularly when I complete my statless NBA player list sometime in the, I'd estimate, late 2020s.

Thanks very much for your input. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 06:55, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

Glad to see you have given this some thought and realize its potential as a directive resource. We all have our own priorities and I understand that this may never rise to the top of your list. I just thought that as a basketball list person, I should make you aware of this need. Kudos for the Purple Aces contribution. Keep doing what you do.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:50, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Consensus

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• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1943_Gibraltar_Liberator_AL523_crash#Question
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Galaxy_Airlines_Flight_203
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pakistan_International_Airlines_Flight_705
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Aviation_accident_task_force/Archive_6#Here_we_go_again-_Munich_air_disaster ~2026-14967-37 (talk) 01:02, 20 May 2026 (UTC)