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Requested move 5 June 2026
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Šušu-Gioro → Šušu Gioro – WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONSISTENCY, WP:NOR. Undiscussed move made by a user with lack of understanding on Manchu naming custom. The family name of "Šušu Gioro", in its nature, is not a double-barrelled name or hyphenated surname like it may have appeared to some people in the English-speaking environment. This kind of naming is somewhat similar to German "von XXX", Dutch "van der XXX" or the "de, da, di" in French, Italian or Spanish where one word (e.g. Irgen, Aisin, Sirin) supplements the other (Gioro). Thus, in reality, it is mostly socially acceptable to address a person with hyphenated surname one of the surnames (e.g. Knowles-Carter, Ms. Knowles, Mrs, Carter). But, it won't work if you call someone Von, Van, de, da, di, as well as "Šušu" in this particular case. This is why the most reputable American academic researchers of Manchu studies do not use hypen with the Manchu last names in this fashion (e.g. 1, 2)Please be familiar with the subject first before taking any major actions like renaming articles. 㡣骨大 (talk) 02:49, 5 June 2026 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 㡣骨大 (talk) 13:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)