Talk:Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 73 kg/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: Arconning (talk · contribs) 08:21, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing one of my articles recently. Here is a review in return :) IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

@Arconning I started my review below. Please could you address the outstanding issues (especially the secondary sourcing one) before I review the prose in-depth and finish the spot check? IAWW (talk) 12:56, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

@It is a wonderful world I believe I've responded to your remarks so far. Regarding the sourcing, I've tried looking for more independent sources outside of the International Weightlifting Federation while I wrote it a few months back, but just couldn't. If it helps, some of the sources that link to the International Weightlifting Federation were actually made by writers at Inside the Games, basically like an Associated Press-type situation for newspapers who need stories. Arconning (talk) 09:57, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

I absolutely hate when I think a GA-nom does not meet the GNG while reviewing.

I was going to start a topic on WikiProject Olympics discussing whether Olympic event articles should have inherent notability, but while researching I found this AfD, which seems to show consensus for merging these types of articles. What do you think? Do you think this meets the GNG, and if not, would you support merging the content with Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics?

From my perspective, I'm not going to feel comfortable passing this article when I don't think it is notable enough, unless consensus is found that it is, in which case I'll just finish the review ignoring my opinion. IAWW (talk) 00:22, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Oooh I did a little research and it turns out there is secondary sourcing:

• Reuters:
• ABC:
• Jakarta Post:
• Jakarta Globe:

Once the secondary information from these sources is integrated, I'll have no issues with notability. IAWW (talk) 11:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

@It is a wonderful world I've been a bit busy but I'll respond to your comments tomorrow. :)

For the merging part, I don't think it'd be proper to merge with the main article as the article you've mentioned hardly had any information considering it was in the 1900s. Arconning (talk) 13:55, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

@It is a wonderful world I've added the two sources as the rest of the sources have already been cited by the other two articles. :) Arconning (talk) 12:06, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @Arconning. This fixes my concerns with notability. I would still prefer secondary sourcing be used more consistently throughout the article, but my concerns are just about alleviated for the GA level. The lack of using secondary sources as a guide to decide how much weight is given to different aspects of the article (see WP:BALASP) has caused the article to focus way too much on the background, rather than the actual event. As mentioned in suggestions, I'm not going to require this be entirely fixed to pass, but during the prose review I will bring up some of the more egregious examples. IAWW (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Prose review is below. I'll give the article another pass when the points have been addressed, as the wording is slightly awkward and unclear in places. IAWW (talk) 20:13, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

@It is a wonderful world I believe the two points have been addressed now. Arconning (talk) 16:40, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Passing now. Congrats on another GA! I hope you found the review helpful. IAWW (talk) 05:05, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Prose (Criteria 1a, 1b, 4) clock

Lead

Clean and jerk world record holder Rahmat Erwin Abdullah of Indonesia was also a favourite to win but was out of the rankings due to Juniansyah's qualifying total being higher: I think be more explicit that she was unable to compete for Indonesia because Abdullah's qualifying total was higher. It's not clear that "but was out of the rankings" means she could not compete. IAWW (talk) 18:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

I think more information about the actual event should be included in the lead, especially the medalist's totals and Shi's back injury causing him to fail his clean and jerk attempts despite being in the lead after the snatch. IAWW (talk) 18:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Indonesia is not linked as the other countries are. IAWW (talk) 18:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

Background

He was the first person to win gold at a World Championships lifting in the B Group (session for lower entry weights, held before the A Group).: I think cut as too far off topic IAWW (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Abdullah's nationality is mentioned, but the nationalities of the other competitors aren't in this section. It would make more sense that this be consistent. IAWW (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

he set a world record in the B Group: As above I don't think it's relevant enough, but also cutting this removes any ambiguity over whether the world record was just for a B group athlete or an actual world record. IAWW (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

In the men's 73 kg event, Weeraphon Wichuma won gold, becoming the first athlete competing in the C Group (session held before the B Group) to do in major competition: Cut this less relevant information (it could be moved to Wichuma's page and/or the page for that event), and replace it with the more relevant information of whether that performance qualified Wichuma for the Olympics IAWW (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

The 2023 IWF Grand Prix II was the last competition held in 2023 within the qualifying period: weirdly specific and not relevant, though it would be fine to state it was a qualifying competition, if you feel that's not implied, though it's not stated for the following competitions in this section. IAWW (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

placing above Shi and displacing Abdullah out of the qualification rankings due to his total being higher than his: Clarify that this is because only one athlete per NOC is allowed IAWW (talk) 20:20, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

due to the fact only one athlete per National Olympic Committee (NOC) is allowed at the Games: "at the Games" is a bit misleading, as in other sports more than one competitor from each NOC is allowed. Could you change it to be more precise? IAWW (talk) 18:09, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Qualification

Qualification for every event had spots for at least twelve weightlifters: Source says a "maximum" of 12, not "at least" 12. IAWW (talk) 20:18, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Qualification spots were eligible for the ten highest-ranked weightlifters in the IWF Olympic Qualification Ranking, the highest-ranked weightlifter representing an NOC whose continent lies outside the top ten (IWF Olympic Continental Qualification Ranking), the host nation's reserved entry and a universality place: If you cut out the previous items in the list, which make sense, this reads "Qualification spots were eligible for (...) and a universality place". This doesn't make grammatical sense. It should read something like "Qualification spots were eligible for (...) and an athlete qualifying for universality". IAWW (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

If a spot was still available once every continent was represented in the top ten, the host nation did not send an entry, a universality place was not used, or any combination of the following, the quota place was allocated to the next highest-ranked eligible weightlifter: Do you mean the "previous" rather than the "following"? IAWW (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

To be eligible for the event, all weightlifters must have competed at the 2023 World Weightlifting Championships in Riyadh, 2024 IWF World Cup in Phuket, and in at least three qualifying tournaments:

• I think adding "other" before qualifying tournaments would help clarify (resolved)
• I suggest adding a footnote for what tournaments were eligible as "qualifying tournaments" (resolved)
• The qualifying tournaments link does not link to the same list of tournaments listed in the source IAWW (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Apart from two compulsory events, the host country France and those eligible for universality places may have competed in a minimum of two qualifying tournaments: What do you mean "may have competed in a minimum of two qualifying tournaments"? Was that a requirement? (resolved)

Apart from the two compulsory events, the [entrant from the] host country France: Make it make sense. IAWW (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

I think the fact that two athletes from the same NOC couldn't both enter is very relevant for this article and should be included. IAWW (talk) 20:19, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

@It is a wonderful world Already written. :) "Qualification for every event had spots for a maximum of twelve weightlifters coming from different NOCs."

With this comment: "The qualifying tournaments link does not link to the same list of tournaments listed in the source", page 2 and 3 of the source shows the list of the qualifying tournaments as well as the wikilink if that's what you meant.

I believe I've addressed all of your comments. Let me know if I have anything else pending. Arconning (talk) 11:59, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Yes apologies for those two mistakes. Not sure how I missed the first one and got confused about the second one. Looking through the article again now. IAWW (talk) 17:54, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Just reread, and I'm really happy with your changes. There's just two minor points I found, which I added in their respective sections. After those are fixed I'll be happy to pass. Thanks for being so responsive! IAWW (talk) 18:28, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

all weightlifters must have competed at the 2023 World Weightlifting Championships in Riyadh, 2024 IWF World Cup in Phuket, and in at least three other qualifying tournaments: I think it's worth adding a footnote that this was the case "except in truly exceptional circumstances" (words from the source). IAWW (talk) 18:27, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Records

were the snatch was set: Not grammatically correct IAWW (talk) 20:08, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

Results

I think "Results" is a little too narrow a title for this section, as it doesn't include just the raw results, but a description of the proceedings of the competition. Perhaps "competition" or "event" would work better, but I'll leave the exact title up to you. IAWW (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Matam had the lightest snatch of the event at 145 kilograms: Matam hasn't been introduced in the prose yet, so a full name, link and nationality would be appropriate. IAWW (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

setting a new junior world record: Can be linked to List of junior world records in Olympic weightlifting IAWW (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

I think Wichuma and Andreev's totals should be included. IAWW (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

Sources Y

The citation numbers are based on this version.

Health/formatting (Criterion 2a) Y

Very well formatted

Reliability (Criterion 2b) Y

No issues

Spot check (Criteria 2b, 2c, 2d) Y

Issues caught by this script and then manually checked:

[10a]: Doesn't quite fully support. is a better source anyhow. IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

[15]: Doesn't mention the venue IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

[16]: Doesn't support the details about his performance, like the two attempts. IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

[17]: Doesn't support "Matam had the lightest snatch of the event at 145 kilograms while Shi had the highest with 165 kilograms". I didn't check the rest. IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC) (resolved)

Manually checked:

[11a]: Y

[12]: Y

[11b]: Y

Copyvio (Criterion 2d) Y

Earwig finds nothing. I found no issues on the spot check.

Scope (Criteria 3a, 3b) Y

I'm concerned that there isn't any independent secondary sourcing on this event referenced in the article. All of the secondary analysis comes from the International Weightlifting Federation, which is not an independent source. Please could you add some reliable, independent, secondary sourcing so that it meets the WP:GNG? IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

I have left a suggestion for improving the background section in the beyond-GA suggestions.

Media Y

Tags (Criterion 6a) Y

No issues

Captions (Criterion 6b) Y

No issues

Suggestions (not needed for GA promotion)

I personally think the sources used to assemble the background section are not sufficiently related to the subject of the article. WP:NOR says To demonstrate that one is not adding original research, one must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support the material being presented, but the sources in the background section are not directly related to this specific event. I think the background section should only consist of information from sources which significantly discuss this specific event as their main subject or as part of their text.

I leave this as a suggestion because this thread shows consensus on whether these sections are original research is more mixed than it states in WP:NOR. IAWW (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

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