Talk:St. Pat's for All/GA1
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Nominator: Mnation2 (talk · contribs) 00:32, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Snugglebuns (talk · contribs) 22:00, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
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edit- Authorship: 91.3% nominator
- Earwig: 30.6%, proper nouns and quotes are the only things getting flagged.
- I went through and added proper clippings of all of the newspapers.com articles so that they are more accessible to those without subscriptions. I left a couple comments on the source spot check table. Snuggle📫 10:30, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
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| No. | Section | Criteria status | Excerpt | Suggestion |
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| 1 | History/Founding - 2nd paragraph | "...the Irish Lesbian and Gay Organization, Lavender and Green Alliance, Queens Lesbian and Gay Pride Committee, SAGE, Dignity/New York, and PFLAG's Queens chapter..." | From what I could find it seems that SAGE and PFLAG both use the shortened names opposed to their original full names so it's fine to keep them that way if you so choose but I would like to get a link to SAGE or to introduce the names for readers who are not aware of the organizations. | |
| 2 | History/Growth and Reception - 1st paragraph | "The parade nonetheless proceeded on March 4, 2001; organizers, unable to recruit a Catholic priest to give the blessing, were joined instead by a nun, and police arrested a man for cutting loose several hundred dollars' worth of parade balloons." | This sentence feels odd. It feels a bit too narrative. I assume given the context that the nun did the blessing but am uncertain if the man that was arrested had anything to do with the blessing or if it just didn't fit anywhere else in the nearby sentences. | |
| 3 | History/Growth and Reception | This section needs to have better paragraph structure. The first paragraph is long and covers 2001 and 2002 but also mentions 2013. The second paragraph covers 2005, 2007, and 2013. The third paragraph only mentions 2018. I think this section would benefit from more detail about milestone years as well as at least brief mentions of the other years. For example in 2007, the parade doubled in size compared to 2006 but there is no mention of why or any particular organizations that may have contributed to the increased size (this is all assuming that there is information available about it). | ||
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Source spotcheck
editThis table lists 13 random passages from throughout the article (17.8% of 73 total passages). These passages contain 17 inline citations (16.0% of 106 in the article). Generated with the Veracity user script. Snuggle📫 22:15, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
| Reference # | Letter | Source | Archive | Status | Notes |
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| By its second decade The New York Times was describing the once-marginal protest event as a mainstream Queens tradition, | |||||
| 5 | a | Kilgannon 2013. | NYT didn't really describe the parade this way as much as Fay was quoted saying this and they alluded to this idea. | ||
| Background | |||||
| The New York City St. Patrick's Day Parade in Manhattan, organized since 1851 by the Ancient Order of Hibernians (AOH), | |||||
| 7 | nycstpatricksparade.org | ||||
| On March 17, 2016, Lavender and Green marched up Fifth Avenue for the first time, ending the formal ban; de Blasio returned to the Manhattan parade after his two-year boycott, and Fay told reporters, "This is unbelievable." | |||||
| 17 | irishtimes.com | ||||
| History | |||||
| In 2000, Fay founded St. Pat's for All as an inclusive alternative to the Manhattan St. Patrick's Day Parade. Alongside Ellen Duncan, he served as a co-chair of the inaugural event, held on Sunday, March 5; co-organizers included Daniel Dromm, the founder of the Queens Pride Parade. | |||||
| 9 | c | Mulligan 2008, pp. 153–167. | |||
| 19 | a | lgbtqreligiousarchives.org | |||
| 20 | a | thenation.com | |||
| Council Member Dromm, a co-organizer, said Clinton's attendance "brought a lot of legitimacy to this parade." | |||||
| 24 | c | newspapers.com | proper clipping of the article | ||
| Fay served as the parade's principal organizer for 22 years, working alongside longtime co-leader Kathleen Walsh D'Arcy, | |||||
| 5 | c | Kilgannon 2013. | |||
| Over its first decade the parade drew increasing numbers of marchers and contingents and broader cooperation from elected officials and Irish-American cultural institutions. By 2013, when The New York Times covered the parade's expected 2,000-plus marchers and the addition of the FDNY Emerald Society Pipes and Drums (a band Fay had previously been unable to recruit), Fay told the paper, "We're now part of the St. Patrick's Day tradition in New York." | |||||
| 5 | d | Kilgannon 2013. | |||
| The 2022 parade, held on March 6 and honoring MacNiallais, marked the return of in-person marching after the pandemic; Lieutenant Governor Brian Benjamin, U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer, and U.S. Representative Carolyn Maloney marched. | |||||
| 36 | ny1.com | ||||
| 37 | governor.ny.gov | ||||
| 38 | amny.com | ||||
| Contingents | |||||
| The parade has incorporated cultural contingents that draw on Irish-diaspora connections beyond the United States. Mexican marchers have paid tribute to the San Patricio Battalion, the Irish-led unit that fought for Mexico in the Mexican–American War. | |||||
| 5 | e | Kilgannon 2013. | |||
| By 2003, Fay estimated that roughly ten percent of marchers were gay, with the parade by then drawing a broad cross-section of Irish-American and immigrant Queens. | |||||
| 14 | b | nytimes.com | |||
| Political dimensions | |||||
| In 2003, Bloomberg returned in steady rain alongside Council Speaker Gifford Miller, Comptroller William C. Thompson Jr., Council Members Christine Quinn and Eric Gioia, and State Senator Thomas Duane; | |||||
| 46 | a | newspapers.com | clipping I only see Gioia and Miller mentioned by name in this article. | ||
| de Blasio became a recurring participant, marching through a snowstorm in 2015 alongside grand marshal Kerry Kennedy after again boycotting the Manhattan parade, which that year permitted only one LGBT-themed contingent. de Blasio said the Manhattan parade's concession that year to allow one gay group to fly its flag was "too small a change to merit a lot of us participating." | |||||
| 51 | newyork.cbslocal.com | ||||
| Notes | |||||
| and committed an independent Irish Republic to "religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and...cherishing all the children of the nation equally." Parade organizers have cited the line as a foundational text supporting LGBTQ and immigrant inclusion. | |||||
| 1 | d | nyclgbtsites.org | |||