Talk:Papacy during the Reformation

This and that random confession

The article treats the period 1517 to 1585 and then comes the confessions:

• 1537, Smalcald Articles, Article four — OK,
• 1537, Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pope — superfluous?
• 1646, Westminster Confession — the source is primary protestant, but does not belong to here because it might be a later formula,
• 1689, Baptist Confession of Faith — the source isn't even primary protestant! Baptists are disenters from the Anglicans.

The section Reformation misleads by exhibiting improper anachronisms as proofs for the kind of antagonism against the Roman Catholics. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 08:04, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 5 May 2026

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The result of the move request was: moved. There's a clear consensus for "Papacy during the Reformation." (non-admin closure) Feeglgeef (talk) 23:22, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

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Reformation Papacy → The papacy during the Protestant Reformation – or Papacy during the Protestant Reformation or The papacy through the Protestant Reformation or Papacy during the Protestant Reformation and Counter-Reformation. As with the "Renaissance Papacy" article, which was recently renamed to Papacy during the Renaissance, this title seems to invent a proper name for a period of the papacy, and may hint at the idea that this period involved a reformation of the papacy itself. The Reformation was something led by people outside the papacy – there was no "Reformation Papacy" as far as I know. The word "papacy" does not need to be capitalized, and it is not capitalized in the body of this article or in the Pope article. See History of the papacy, History of the papacy (1048–1257), Social teachings of the papacy, and Legends surrounding the papacy. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 19:12, 12 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:44, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

I agree. Papacy is a common noun here. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 20:04, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Not that common. There's only one! Srnec (talk) 20:28, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Not entirely true: Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church. ThaesOfereode (talk) 19:42, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Oppose using 'the' and 'Protestant' (the article is at Reformation). This should probably consider alongside all the other "___ Papacy" history articles. Srnec (talk) 20:28, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject European Microstates, WikiProject Catholicism, and WikiProject Vatican City have been notified of this discussion. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 19:12, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

• Move to Papacy during the Reformation. WP:DEFINITE. "The Reformation" is WP:COMMONNAME of the period (and therefore the name of the Wikipedia article). The Counter-Reformation overlaps with the period so is redundant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wh1pla5h99 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
• Comment No strong opinion for moving vs not moving, but I agree with the unsigned nomination above that Papacy during the Reformation is the appropriate name should the page be moved; adding "Counter-Reformation" is redundant and WP:POSA fodder. "Reformation" is the name chosen by editors and should be used in lieu of "Protestant Reformation". ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:30, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

  Papacy during the Reformation seems OK for me too. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:03, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

• Rather reluctant support for Papacy during the Reformation (or with "Protestant" included). Johnbod (talk) 02:19, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
• Support. and request retention of the term "Protestant Reformation" per WP:PRECISE for disambiguation of other reformations. Most notably, the term "reformation papacy" is often used to refer to the Gregorian Reform (or the "Hildebrandian reformation") period of the mid-to-late 11th Century period (series of reformist popes beginning with Pope Leo IX, finding its apogee with Pope Gregory VII (Hildebrand of Soana), and continuing into the early 1100s). Walrasiad (talk) 04:25, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

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