Talk:Military recruit training
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Army
editHow is like in the army 2601:681:300:5C0:79D0:CB5A:30D1:C4C0 (talk) 20:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Just watch Stripes. It's pretty much a documentary.Niteshift36 (talk) 21:22, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Page name change proposed
editTo 'Military recruit training' - because civilian employers recruit too and this is clearly a page about military recruits. Thoughts? If no objections I'll make the change in about a week and see what comes of it. Fugitivedave (talk) 14:08, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Turbin nuklir
editRadio aktif kimia 114.122.20.115 (talk) 12:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
An issue with wording
editHello! I’m not in the military, so I’m on the outside looking in, but based on what I’ve heard I have an issue with how a couple of things are worded here and on the related United States basic training articles. These articles use terms such as “taught to obey all orders” and “taught to obey orders without question”, but I’ve heard from veterans that that’s not exactly true. Recruits are taught to follow orders, but they’re also taught when NOT to follow orders. That’s because the U.S. military (and probably others) don’t want a repeat of World War II in which some soldiers committed war crimes/ atrocities and claimed they were “just following orders”. This was brought up when the soldiers at Abu Ghraib tried to use the “just following orders” excuse. Other people who had served in the U.S. military said, “No, don’t try that excuse! We’re also taught when not to follow orders to try to prevent incidents like this!” A source on the Military Discipline article talks about recruits following orders quickly and intelligently, so perhaps that would be better wording. This isn’t trying to promote the military at all, just trying to paint a more accurate picture. 2603:6011:8E41:A800:9C17:A1B9:A79D:17A1 (talk) 14:19, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- As support, here’s an article written by an officer saying that sometimes it might be necessary to go against orders and that while it’s important for troops to follow orders in general, it’s not good for troops to be unthinking automatons- https://warontherocks.com/2019/07/when-not-to-obey-orders/ 2603:6011:8E41:A800:2462:E0E0:F7D5:A277 (talk) 21:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here’s further discussion about following and not following orders- https://www.quora.com/Why-are-soldiers-taught-to-follow-orders-without-asking-questions 2603:6011:8E41:A800:2462:E0E0:F7D5:A277 (talk) 21:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- I was in the US Army (12 years), and I tend to agree the wording is rather cynical and doesn't match my own experience. ~2025-37288-84 (talk) 02:20, 10 December 2025 (UTC)