Talk:Michael E. Mann

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Hob Gadling in topic Mann's X Posts

Lawsuit update

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This is from one of the involved parties, so I don't think it can be cited in the article. But it is an indicator that we should expect reliable sources to cover it pretty soon, so I think this link is relevant as a reason to be on the lookout for future sources:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/01/pay-up-mr-mann/

A Plumbing I Will Go (talk) 01:47, 13 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Michael Mann's resignation from Vice Provost role

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In September 2025, Michael Mann stepped down from his position as Vice Provost for Climate Science, Policy, and Action at the University of Pennsylvania after serving for nearly 11 months. He stated the decision stemmed from a conflict between his ongoing science policy advocacy (including work on his book with Peter Hotez) and the university's institutional neutrality policy requiring nonpartisan administrative roles.[1][2][3]

Some reporting noted the timing followed public backlash over his social media posts related to Charlie Kirk's death, though Mann and university statements described it as his independent choice to prioritize advocacy.[4][5]

This event (and any linked controversy) is not currently in the article. Should a brief mention be added to the Career section (per WP:WEIGHT for a short-term admin role, WP:BLP caution on controversy framing, and WP:RS availability from university-affiliated and major regional sources)?

Thoughts? ~2026-12491-05 (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ~2026-12491-05 (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

So, the university wanted him to be halfway to Crazytown, pretending that the Republican position on climate is somehow debatable instead of far removed from reality? Is this how "institutional neutrality" works? The quoted sources stay vague on this point. --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:58, 25 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Proposed update to Career section

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I suggest adding the following concise, neutral paragraph (or integrating as sentences) to the Career section after the description of his Vice Provost appointment:

In September 2025, Mann stepped down from his position as Vice Provost for Climate Science, Policy, and Action at the University of Pennsylvania after nearly 11 months. He stated the decision resulted from a conflict between his public scholarship and advocacy work—particularly his book Science Under Siege—and the university's institutional neutrality policy for administrative roles.[6][7]
The announcement came shortly after public criticism of Mann's social media posts related to the death of Charlie Kirk, including a call from U.S. Senator Dave McCormick (R-Pa.) for the university to take action; university officials and Mann described the resignation as voluntary and unrelated to external pressure.[4]
Mann continues to serve as a professor at Penn and director of the Penn Center for Science, Sustainability and the Media.

This version is brief, sourced to reliable local/regional outlets, uses Mann's stated reason as primary, notes timing/context factually without implying causation, and avoids BLP/UNDUE risks on the controversy. Thoughts? ~2026-12491-05 (talk) 21:17, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ~2026-12491-05 (talk) 21:17, 24 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Mann's X Posts

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Man has written about parties in US politics that he would like to see destroyed, "to save democracy." Using such material in the article would violate the rule of not using primary source. Mann's political views which basically seek to dismantle one of the major parties of the United States need to be addressed nonetheless. At present, the article only alludes to his politics through the section on controversy.  Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-12710-55 (talk) 21:11, 10 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

need to be addressed nonetheless Why? Because you don't like it?
The Republican Party is a strong force of stupidity and ignorance, especially viewed by people who know something about climate science. It is understandable that he wants it destroyed, but as long as reliable sources do not talk about it, Wikipedia shouldn't either. --Hob Gadling (talk) 12:38, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
  1. "Michael Mann resigns from Penn vice provost for climate role". The Daily Pennsylvanian. September 30, 2025. Retrieved February 24, 2026.
  2. Michael E. Mann (September 29, 2025). "Announcement". Retrieved February 24, 2026.
  3. "Climate scientist Michael Mann steps down from administrative role at Penn". The Philadelphia Inquirer. September 30, 2025. Retrieved February 24, 2026.
  4. 1 2 "Michael Mann resigns from Penn vice provost for climate role". The Daily Pennsylvanian. September 30, 2025.
  5. "Michael Mann resigns from administrative post at UPenn". E&E News (via POLITICO Pro). October 2, 2025. Retrieved February 24, 2026.
  6. "Michael Mann resigns from Penn vice provost for climate role". The Daily Pennsylvanian. September 30, 2025. Retrieved February 24, 2026.
  7. "Climate scientist Michael Mann steps down from administrative role at Penn". The Philadelphia Inquirer. September 30, 2025. Retrieved February 24, 2026.