Talk:House of Cards (American TV series)

Emmy-sentence in Intro

"To date, it has received 33 Primetime Emmy Award nominations, including Outstanding Drama Series, Outstanding Lead Actor for Spacey, and Outstanding Lead Actress for Wright, for each of its first five seasons." This sentence is weird and syntactically ambiguous. Are the listed examples nominations which the series has received for every season of the first five, or has it received 33 nominations for every season? I assume the former.' --80.62.117.85 (talk) 17:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Reception

Ratings of episodes on imdb.com

@Radiphus: i read in MOS:TVRECEPTION that "audience viewership (ratings)" is allowed. I added source attribution. Imdb data is good than you look for imdb ratings. It is raw data, without our interpretation. We are not saying that the ratings have dropped because the audience decided to show their attitude to Spacey, or without him series is bad. We say that there is such a popular site, it has such a rating. Better to put in Reception→Critical response→Season 6 section. ·Carn !? 11:35, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Well, IMDb ratings is not reporting on audience viewership (Nielsen ratings), does it? It's only user-generated content, vulnerable to vote brigading and other factors that render it unreliable. Citing user ratings from IMDb on Wikipedia is discouraged per WP:CITEIMDB#Inappropriate uses #3. You shouldn't put the graph in "Critical response" either, as viewers are not critics. Radiphus (talk) 12:20, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

I see "This page is an essay" there. And the vote brigading is seen on my chart - it is surplus of votes amount on season 6. I see from that essay that the bad thing to say "Season 6 has a bad rating" and cite it with imdb data. I don't see why it is bad to say "Ratings of episodes on imdb.com" with this chart.

It is WP:SELFPUB here. ·Carn !? 15:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

We don't use IMDB ratings, they are not appropriate for Wikipedia. Radiphus already mentioned it, but per MOS:TVRECEPTION: This means that IMDb, TV.com, and similar websites that give "fan polls" are not reliable sources of information. Fan reviews are not reliable or notable, we use reviews from professional critics. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

@Joeyconnick: Perhaps I really chose the wrong format for information, but your edit makes the article further from a neutral state, and not closer to it. Tell me the right way to improve the article, please.·Carn !? 08:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

So no, my revert of your edit back to WP:STATUSQUO doesn't take it farther away from a neutral state: the section already describes the reception to that season as "mixed". It was fine as was. On top of your edit not being grammatically correct, it just lists random negative adjectives with no context. That is pretty clearly WP:UNDUE as if it was described as "mixed" by two major aggregators, then simply listing negative descriptors is unbalanced. —Joeyconnick (talk) 22:14, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Huh?

The article says "Frank is passed over for appointment as Secretary of State, House Majority Whip.." Um, nooo.... he's passed over for State, but he already IS Majority Whip.  ?? 2600:6C50:800:2787:AC29:C112:29FD:347F (talk) 07:44, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 25 December 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Those opposing the move argued that the American show is not the PTOPIC, while those supporting the move argued that it is. In the discussion BlueTurtles stated (with a WikiNav link as evidence) that 30% of the outgoing traffic from the dab page went to topics other than the American show. BlueTurtles' argument was not rebutted by any of the supporting editors. (closed by non-admin page mover) TarnishedPath^talk 13:10, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

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• House of Cards (American TV series) → House of Cards
• House of Cards → House of Cards (disambiguation)House of Cards (disambiguation)

– The American TV series is the obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. All-time pageviews for the top 5 topics on the House of Cards DAB page overwhelmingly favor the American TV series, despite it having ended seven years ago with devastatingly poor reviews. WikiNav data for both the House of cards article and House of Cards DAB page indicate that the vast majority of people are searching for the American TV series with the term "House of cards", as many of the views from that article lead to the House of Cards DAB page, and subsequently to this article.

Beyond pageviews, the series certainly holds enough long-term significance to be the primary topic for "House of Cards" (which is distinct from House of cards per WP:SMALLDETAILS) due to its role in elevating Netflix to its present-day juggernaut status, and by extension, paving the way for streaming television to grow as far as it has today. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk • contribs) 08:17, 25 December 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 11:42, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Internet culture, WikiProject Television/American television task force, and WikiProject Television have been notified of this discussion. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk • contribs) 09:10, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, but think that the current page layout is deeply suboptimal. WP:DABORDER specifically allows a meaning that is significantly the most common to be placed right at the top. So should edit the page to place the novel and both TV series to the very top of the disambig page for ease of reader navigation. As far as the merits of PRIMARYTOPIC, the problem is still that the novel and the BBC show came first, and the BBC show wasn't a minor curiosity. The threshold for an adaptation to be the primarytopic over an original is like 10x harder - it happens (Forrest Gump I guess?), but only if the case is truly overwhelming. SnowFire (talk) 22:14, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

  I think the difference in significance is incredibly overwhelming though, the American series is largely original and considerably better known than the novel or the BBC series. That, plus what I mentioned above about its role in vitalizing streaming television and the difference in pageviews as well as the WikiNav data makes the case fairly strongly in my opinion. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk • contribs) 23:03, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

• Support I cannot agree with @SnowFire:'s assertion that the American series is not the primary topic here. The closest thing that I see from the policy page is long-term significance, explicitly: While long-term significance is a factor, historical age is not determinative and Being the original source of the name is also not determinative. Good day—RetroCosmos ^talk 05:48, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Oppose: The original British series doesn't have as many page views but has received far more critical acclaim and arguably has a greater historical legacy- it is listed as one of the greatest series while the American show has a panned final season. The series made in a more populous country, released more recently, and having a higher budget receiving more pageviews does not directly translate to it having eclipsed the original in importance. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 17:41, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

It's not just about the scale of the production or its pageviews; the American series fundamentally redefined television as we know it. Regardless of its critical reception, its role in advancing streaming puts it leagues ahead of the British series or indeed any other topic on the DAB page. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk • contribs) 01:42, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Looking at WikiNav, it can be seen a bit under 70% proceed to this article from the disambiguation page. I think that's still a pretty hefty amount that are looking for other pages, which might be harder to do if they originated from this US TV show page first. Agree that the current disambiguation page should be reordered for prominence though. ~ BlueTurtles | talk 08:20, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
• Procedural comment. Not seeing any objection and seeing BlueTurtles echo my suggestion above, I've boldly edited the disambig page to put the US TV show closer to the top. (This might be a good idea even if this RM closes as move.) SnowFire (talk) 06:12, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
• Support The American series has become the primary topic. Guz13 (talk) 02:43, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose. Smells a bit of WP:RECENTISM. YorkshireExpat (talk) 10:05, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose There is no primary topic between the British and American TV series of the same name. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:46, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose. It's primary if you're American; it's not if you're British. The classic British adaptation clearly has exceptional long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:46, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.