Talk:Kugyŏl

Kwukyel

Kwukyel redirects here without explanation. Is it just a different spelling? If so, the article should note that. The Wiktionary lemma on the topic mentions something of a phonetic way to write Korean. How did it work? 82.139.87.215 (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I imagine Kwukyel is a poor transliteration of the Korean word. What I'm more interested in is the Doosan Encyclopedia entry that is linked as an external link but seems to not exist anymore. Like all entries, it would be nice to see some of the content translated over from the Korean entry into the English entry. Matthew smith 254 (talk) 03:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Kwukyel is Yale romanization of Korean, which is the standard in Korean linguistics. Sanxiyn (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Example Gugyeol

Placing some example Gugyeol here. Note that most are located within CJK Unified Ideographs, Extension A, within Unicode. Some appear to incorporate hangul or hangul-like motifs. Some may not necessarily be phonetic characters, but rather characters for native Korean words and terms. Wiktionary gives various explanations for some, such as "place name", "personal name", etc. See also wikt:Category:Korean-only CJKV Characters and wikt:kwukyel. This is by no means an exhaustive, nor accurate, list.

丷, 乊, 丆, 厼, 壭, 卪, 朩, 亪, 亽, 罖, 仒

ul final (ㄹ，乙)

• 乤(할) - phonetic 下 ha
• 乥(홀)
• 乧(둘) - phonetic 斗 (두, du) plus 乙 (을, ul) = 둘 dul
• 乬(걸) - phonetic 巨(거) + 乙 (을) = 걸 geol
• 乯(올) - phonetic 乎
• 乲(잘) - phonetic 次
• 乺(솔) - phonetic 所 (Korean: 소 so; Pinyin: suo)
• 乻(얼)
• 乼(줄) - phonetic 注 (Korean: 주 ju; Pinyin: zhu)

t final (ㄷ，(ㅅ)ㅈ，口匕)

• 唟(것) - 去
• 喸(폿) - bo/po (i.e. inner component of 葡, as in the 葡 in 葡萄, 포도 podo grape)
• 嗭(짓) - 真
• 夞(읫) - 外+ㅅ
• 巼(팟) - 巴+ㅅ (pa is the initial ideographic reading, ㅅ is the final)
• 廤(곶)
• 莻(늦) - 乃+ㅈ (neu is the initial ideographic reading, ㅈ is the final)

k final (ㄱ)

• 巪(걱) - 巨(거) + ㄱ

CJK characters that "appear to incorporate Hangul"

(most from List of CJK Unified Ideographs, Extension A (3400-4DBF))

motifs include ㅇ, ㄱ, etc

㪲㪳㫇㫈㔔㔖

note that motifs such as ㅇ, ㄱ do not exist in standard Chinese characters as radicals.

Other

㐃㐇㐈㐉㐊㐋㐍㐎㐏㐐㐑㐒㐓㐔㐕㐗㐘㐙㐚㐛㐝㐞㐟㐠㐢㐣㐥㐦㘒㖱㗤㗨㗽㘘㘜

Regards, -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 10:44, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 10 August 2025

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The result of the move request was: page moved. -- Beland (talk) 06:00, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

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Gugyeol → Kugyŏl – ngram shows dominant spelling per WP:COMMONNAME. Also, this works out per WP:NCKO; this new spelling is McCune–Reischauer, which is recommended for pre-1945 topics grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 04:27, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Writing systems has been notified of this discussion. Векочел (talk) 09:12, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

• Concur per MOS:KO-ROMAN which is the guidance for this kind of situation as directed by WP:Naming conventions (Korean). VanIsaac, GHTV ^contr_about 18:27, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

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• Concur per nom. Wish someone could do a rewrite of this page sometime. --

00101984hjw (talk) 02:05, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Table of Kugyŏl

The table of hanja needs explanation, and examples how the characters are glossed, read, etc. Also, it is only a GIF file.

As mentioned in section Example Gugyeol, the character should already be encoded in current Unicode. Totobimomo (talk) 10:48, 25 January 2026 (UTC)