Talk:Charles Leclerc

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Latest comment: 14 days ago by Jeffgriffinsignal in topic Interviews

Family

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/the-next-big-thing-exclusive-f1-interview-with-ferraris-rising-star/3221749/

With this article, would be good to mention that the grandparents mostly paid for hotels and only for charles. And most certainely stopped after the grandfather death in 2012.In another interview, arthur mentionned that him and his father didn't have the money to assist to charles races so they watched on the computer ( he said it during a live) https://x.com/LeclercNews/status/1361035747181092867?t=67GOp9f-lTcpMT37JP_D1A&s=19 94.109.120.54 (talk) 19:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

"His paternal grandfather founded the Novares Group, a French manufacturing company; he helped cover miscellaneous costs throughout his karting career, but not the racing itself." It is already in the article. MB2437 19:29, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
yes but woukd be more clear to precise it was only the hotel and travels and only for charles and so not his own father and brother(like it is said in the link)Because even though it is mentionned "not racing" people could also think it could be related to things in it. This article mention it https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/the-next-big-thing-exclusive-f1-interview-with-ferraris-rising-star/3221749/
Feels like it's a important point to precise the most possible because for years charles pointed how without jules and the sponsors he could find with his help, he couldn't have continued karting. And that even by continuing it, his family (parents and siblings) coud hardly come with him at that time to watch him.
Also his grandfather is hervé step father. 2A02:2788:11B4:29B:90B8:D95E:8D81:4C2C (talk) 13:35, 24 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
They all fall under "miscellaneous costs"—it's clear and concise, although "travel expenses" could also work. Both his karting and endorsements sections cover the support received by Richard Mille, as well as his career beginnings at Brignoles. I've amended "paternal grandfather" to "paternal step-grandfather". MB2437 13:45, 24 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2025

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Elder brother is Lorenzo Tolotta-Leclerc 114.198.1.160 (talk) 10:38, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Haj (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Lorenzo

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I thought he had an older brother Lorenzo Leclerc that isn't listed on here Emily Chase (talk) 21:40, 31 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Emily Chase: Lorenzo is mentioned in the "Early life" section. He isn't listed in the infobox because he isn't sufficiently notable in his own right to have his own article. DH85868993 (talk) 22:27, 31 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Per DH, we only list relatives who have their own articles in infoboxes; this is consistent across the project. All his immediate relatives are discussed in "early life". MB2437 23:38, 31 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

"Racing godfather"

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@12316A: regarding this summary, Wikipedia should be about facts, not how English media describe something. No. Wikipedia follows the word of reliable sources and is not a place to right great wrongs. There is no such thing as a "racing godfather"; it makes no sense to an average reader. You seem to be operating under the assumption it is an official title, which it is not. I found two sources using the term "racing godfather" amongst hundreds simply stating "godfather". MB2437 22:26, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

There are plenty of sources using term “sporting godfather”.
https://www.vroomkart.com/news/40478/leclerc-what-a-start
https://www.rtl.fr/sport/autres-sports/f1-gp-du-japon-charles-leclerc-rend-hommage-a-jules-bianchi-7900370541
https://www.charles-leclerc-fans.com/2013/09/13/exclu-jules-bianchi-nous-parle-de-charles-leclerc/
https://franceracing.fr/f1/charles-leclerc-na-jamais-envisage-tout-arreter-apres-la-mort-de-jules-bianchi/?amp
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/sports/1105762/charles-leclerc-doit-tout-a-jules-bianchi
https://www.julesbianchi.fr/en/charles-leclerc-leads-42-hour-karting-marathon-in-tribute-to-jules-bianchi/
Those are just some of them. What I find the most important, Leclerc himself always called Bianchi a “sporting godfather”. Word “godfather” has two meanings and for many the one that first comes to mind is a man who presents a child at baptism and many think that’s the relationship Bianchi and Leclerc shared. That’s also probably why at some point Bianchi was even added to the relatives list. 12316A (talk) 06:40, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Four of the six are French-language, Vroom is translated from Italian, and the other is a blog. MB2437 11:46, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
So sources being in different language than English make them not reliable? 12316A (talk) 13:14, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Some are reliable, but this conversation is about usage of the English language. MB2437 13:42, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
So what is your issue? Grammatical incorrectness? You’re completely skipping the fact that using the term “godfather” alone confuse people to the point they put Bianchi in the relatives list 12316A (talk) 14:02, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
What is the confusion? He is very widely cited as being his "godfather". The term is not limited to being present at a christening or baptism. "Sporting godfather" is considerably more confusing. MB2437 14:14, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
People confusing "godfather" and legal relatives is an irrelevant point to make here, that's a separate discussion for their own misunderstanding. Most English-language reliable sources have simply stated godfather, without affixing the additional modifier of "racing" or "sporting" to it. Their relationship is often referred to as "mentor" and/or "godfather" by English-language media, and in this case, I'm leaning towards WP:NONENG.
  • Formula 1: Ferrari driver Charles Leclerc shares memories of his close friend and godfather Jules Bianchi.
  • ESPN: … Leclerc's godfather Jules Bianchi was also front of his mind.
  • The Independent: Jules Bianchi honoured as Charles Leclerc dons special helmet for godfather
  • NY Times: Another important person in Leclerc’s life is Jules Bianchi, his godfather, …
  • CNN: … with his godfather and French racing driver Jules Bianchi.
Haj (talk) 14:59, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
That’s why I think the best solution would be to use the word “mentor”, which isn’t confusing to anyone 12316A (talk) 09:50, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
The best solution would be to follow what reliable sources say. Given how many say it, we can present it as fact without attribution. MB2437 15:40, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Person above said sources describe Bianchi also as a “mentor”. Then again why Leclerc’s own words are not taken as reliable sources? Why you don’t want so much to specify the relationship between Leclerc and Bianchi? Using a word with a clear, one meaning would prevent any confusion 12316A (talk) 18:08, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
It does not prevent any confusion—a made-up term to describe their relationship is plainly confusing. MB2437 18:13, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
What is the issue with word “mentor” then? 12316A (talk) 18:40, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
That he is universally described as his "godfather" in reliable English-language sources. The relationship was clearly more than just mentorship. How are you missing this? MB2437 18:56, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
So it’s better to use a word with two meanings than a precise one? 12316A (talk) 19:32, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
It's better to follow what reliable sources describe their relationship as. MB2437 21:04, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
French sources are reliable, Leclerc’s own words are reliable, there are reliable sources calling Bianchi Leclerc’s mentor, but for some reason you prefer to use a word with two different meanings instead of a precise one. 12316A (talk) 21:58, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2025

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Add the following to the end of the Endorsements section:

In March 2025, Leclerc was announced as a Global Brand Ambassador for Scotch whisky brand Chivas Regal.

Source: https://www.chivasbrothers.com/2025/03/charles-leclerc-and-chivas-regal-hit-the-right-note-in-new-global-partnership/ CSRakishReason (talk) 10:05, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not covered by an independent source as of yet; will add when it has coverage. MB2437 13:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2025

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70.35.222.135 (talk) 19:18, 31 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

his other name is Lord Perceval

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Happy halloween, pro-anti-air ––>(talk)<–– 20:13, 31 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2025

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In section "Film and Television", mention that he appeared as himself in F1: The Movie, per imdb. ~2025-38822-52 (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done. IMDb is not considered reliable. Sorry, but no. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 00:13, 6 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_(film)#Formula_One_drivers,_personnel_and_others has a couple of other citations for the same fact: https://variety.com/lists/f1-movie-cast-real-drivers/daniel-ricciardo/ https://screenrant.com/f1-the-movie-real-life-drivers/ ~2025-38879-18 (talk) 08:11, 6 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Not really noteworthy; every F1 driver appeared in the movie. He did not have a spoken role. MB2437 19:15, 11 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Discovering karting

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Hello, I just wanted to mention it would perhaps be better to say he discovered karting when his dad brought him to brignoles like the article say.Because you would think it was there he started competition but it is mentionned just after at magny cours. ( I am putting attention to that because someone I talked with though it meant he made his 1st competition in brignoles at hervé friend karting circuit but the source say it was somewhere else. And Brignoles was when he became interested in karting that year) Sorry for the bother! ~2025-40337-74 (talk) 17:03, 14 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

It elaborates in the next sentence that his competitive career began in 2005, two years after he began karting at Brignoles with Hervé, Jules, and Philippe. His first experiences in a go-kart were at Brignoles, but I am unsure where he debuted competitively. The Coupe de France at Magny-Cours, while mentioned, was later in the year than the regional championships he contested in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur; that was his first national event. MB2437 02:34, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2025

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Change "He duelled with rival Verstappen to become the youngest-ever KZ World Champion at Varennes-sur-Allier, with Leclerc finishing runner-up to him." to "He duelled with rival Verstappen, who became the youngest-ever KZ World Champion at Varennes-sur-Allier, with Leclerc finishing runner-up to him. FrederickZiola (talk) 17:02, 25 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done Deacon Vorbis (carbon  videos) 17:38, 25 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Grandfather

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hello, Isn't his grandfather business monegasque and not french? I checked articles and it say it is a monaco business ~2025-43734-47 (talk) 22:42, 29 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Based in Paris. MB2437 02:20, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

GA review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Charles Leclerc/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Mb2437 (talk · contribs) 23:42, 26 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: NicheSports (talk · contribs) 04:57, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply


Mb2435 Thanks for the work on this. I'm starting the review now. NicheSports (talk) 21:29, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewing this article is like pre-qualifying into Q3. (Hopefully this analogy makes sense lol). It is in great shape! NicheSports (talk) 22:50, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Calling this for the day, will finish tomorrow. Article looks in great shape and unless something surprising turns up in the Source checks I am hopeful this will be a quick pass. Can you look into the grammar question on the use of a comma preceding a dependent clause that starts with "before"? This is a common construct in the article and I'm ~65% confident that you typically should not use a comma there. NicheSports (talk) 23:58, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Whoops, forgot to ping. @Mb2437 see end-of-day comment above. NicheSports (talk) 00:00, 1 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Mb2437 done for the day. Outstanding items are source review (ex-Earwig) and checking illustrations. I'll get to those final items tomorrow. Assuming everything looks good I think we should be able to pass this weekend. Btw one question for you: at your talk page you suggested some pruning might be required, but I didn't note anything. Did you have any sections in mind? NicheSports (talk) 04:07, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Most of the F1 sections are over-referenced (planning to bring the markup size far below 400k) and could do with a copyedit to bring the length down; the 2025 section will definitely be trimmed but waiting for more sourced commentary on it so I can give it a proper once-around before the new season, along with 2020–2024 (already trimmed 2018 and 2019). Only areas of expansion I would like to work on is a teammate comparison in the driver profile and a rivalries section—would only be Verstappen currently. I do not expect the word count to threaten 15k any time soon. MB2437 05:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Noted on the references. Re: copy editing... do you see anything that needs trimmed to meet the GA criteria at this time? I don't, but I am new to this. I'd already checked the article size and it has room to grow. Maybe after 3-4 more seasons in F1 some consolidation would be required. NicheSports (talk) 06:24, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
All looks fine to me, well within limits and due weight is given to each season relative to encyclopaedic interest—2019 and 2022 are by far his most discussed, hence the separate sections. MB2437 06:41, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nice. Agreed. NicheSports (talk) 06:43, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Lead

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Early life

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Junior racing career

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Formula One career

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Driver profile

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Other ventures

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  • Leclerc has been partnered with Swiss luxury watch company Richard Mille since 2009, who supported him through his kart racing and junior formulae career. Could "has partnered" work? And the "who" is a bit awkward for two reasons 1) the preceding clause ends with "in 2009" 2) it refers to Richard Mille the company - would "which" be better? If fine by the MOS then disregard of course NicheSports (talk) 03:54, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Good spot on the "who", done. Waffle incoming. This is a discrepancy between British and American English outlined in MOS:PLURALS. While this article has been marked as British English—the vast majority of reliable, English-language publications following F1 are British—"which" is still correct despite companies being more commonly treated as a group of people rather than a single entity; as it is invariably treated as singular in American English, it is best to just avoid an awkward read for all and address companies as such. MB2437 06:05, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • his helmet sold for a record €306,000. what is the record here? Was not clear from context NicheSports (talk) 03:54, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    The record sales figure for a helmet. I feel this is as clear as it can be without convoluting the text too much. MB2437 06:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Personal life

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Ferrari strategy error mention count

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Sourcing

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Spot check

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  • [6]: he helped cover miscellaneous costs throughout Leclerc's karting career, but not the racing itself Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [13][14][15]: Leclerc first began karting aged five and started racing at Brignoles—a kart circuit owned by Jules Bianchi's father. Verified, although [15] was not necessary checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [19]: He further won the Academy Trophy and the Masters of Paris-Bercy Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [29]: as well as finishing runner-up to Nicklas Nielsen in the WSK Final Cup Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [41]: Upon his graduation to junior formulae, Leclerc credited their "numerous clashes" with boosting his experience and character. Verified checkY although the archive link didn't work for me - can you check? NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Fixed. MB2437 04:58, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [71]: Leclerc claimed an additional three consecutive podiums at the Hockenheimring, winning the rain-affected third race after overtaking Rosenqvist. I think this is fine? Everything is a clear verification except—potentially—for: "Leclerc claimed an additional three consecutive podiums at the Hockenheimring". All the source states about this is referring to Leclerc's win in the third race as his "His fifth straight podium" . What if he had DNF'd in one of the preceding races... a bit of a stretch I admit. If you're comfortable with this verifying, then it is fine with me NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Yeah all fine there, it is a routine calculation. MB2437 04:50, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [96]: After the race, he described the result as crucial to his "mental strength" following a challenging end to his F3 season. Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [107]: He received a three-place grid drop for impeding Giuliano Alesi in qualifying at the Hockenheimring, where he finished fifth in race one—behind Albon. Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [8]: Leclerc dedicated his pole in Baku to his recently deceased father, Hervé Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [129][130]: he converted it to victory in the feature and second-place in the sprint, losing the win to Nato at the latter following a 10-second time penalty for ignoring yellow flags Verified, although the first source is not needed. The second is high quality and covers all claims checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [98]: In 2016, Leclerc joined the Ferrari Driver Academy and signed as a development driver for Haas and Ferrari. Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [166]: Leclerc completed further free practice sessions with Sauber at the Malaysian, United States, Mexican, and Brazilian Grands Prix. Failed verification due to verb tense. The source is dated to before any of those qualifying rounds were completed. It states The Monegasque driver will appear in the opening sessions in the car in Malaysia, U.S, Mexico and Brazil. ☒N NicheSports (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    @Mb2437 FYI NicheSports (talk) 01:38, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Done—the other source removed was duplicated verification. MB2437 01:54, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    What do you mean by duplicated verification? There was only one source for the statement. The new source does verify though, thanks NicheSports (talk) 01:58, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    I meant the one removed at the start of the Sauber section. MB2437 02:04, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [179][180][181]: This run included three retirements: a loose wheel in Britain, suspension damage after colliding with Sergio Pérez in Hungary, and a multi-car collision in Belgium. Two (apparent) verification issues with the bolded statement. The source only states that Leclerc suffered suspension damage - it does not state that he retired. The source also does not specify which of the Force India cars caused the damage. Did I miss something here? Also, the last source does not seem to explicitly state that Leclerc retired in Belgium. Did I miss something? Given the pictures in that source potentially this is a WP:SKYBLUE situation but I'm not sure. What are your thoughts? Blue question mark? NicheSports (talk) 01:52, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    @Mb2437 FYI NicheSports (talk) 01:53, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    "Sauber's front suspension taking a hit from both sides from the rear Force India wheels. Strike one Sauber." Strike is an alternate way of saying he was out, besides the fact suspension damage always results in retirement. The source states it was both Force Indias, done.
    The final source is fine, shows his car clearly torn in half by the incident, but done anyway. MB2437 02:03, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Ah ok, I interpreted "Strike one Sauber" as "Strike one" (baseball idiom) Sauber, which could mean several different things. But "Strike" one Sauber is the fairer interpretation in this context, so I agree that was fine. And agree I think the final source was fine re: the Belgium retirement. Thanks for fixing the Perez/Ocon nuance. NicheSports (talk) 02:06, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Note citation numbers below are different from above after source updates were made in response to comments above. NicheSports (talk) 04:28, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • [181] Further points finishes came with ninth- and seventh-place at the Singapore and Russian Grands Prix, respectively Verified checkY NicheSports (talk) 04:28, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • [182][183] before retirements from a mechanical failure in Japan and damage from a collision with Romain Grosjean in the United States I don't think any of this verifies. makes it clear Leclerc retired in Japan due to damage after a crash with Magnussen, while never states that Leclerc retires. Let me know if I missed anything here Blue question mark? NicheSports (talk) 04:28, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    @Mb2437 FYI NicheSports (talk) 04:28, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Japan verifies: But all that effort came to nothing on lap 40 as Leclerc was forced into retirement with an undiagnosed issue. Replaced the second with a clearer source. MB2437 04:49, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Hmmm. I don't agree that "an undiagnosed issue" is the same as a "mechanical failure" - especially given the source describes Leclerc as sustaining crash damage earlier in the race NicheSports (talk) 05:18, 4 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    In the context of F1, that is exactly what it means. Undiagnosed heavily implies it was unrelated to the prior damage; regardless, crash damage is a mechanical issue. The wording is intentionally unspecific as there is no source relating the retirement to anything in particular. Consensus in WP:F1 is to list such retirements as "mechanical", as our article on the Grand Prix itself states. Typically, we would specify "collision damage", "engine", "electrical", "hydraulics", etc. MB2437 00:13, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Fair enough, I will defer to the WP:F1 perspective here. I assumed a retirement due to (for example) deteriorating aero performance due to crash damage to aero surfaces would not be considered a mechanical. But I am happy to count this as verified :) NicheSports (talk) 00:16, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Note citation numbers below are different from above after source updates were made in response to comments above. NicheSports (talk) 01:53, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Scope

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  • easy pass on both criteria 3.a and 3.b. Article has ~8000 words, a good length for the subject. Appropriate focus given to all sections (early life, junior career, formula one, personal life). NicheSports (talk) 23:55, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Illustration

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General discussion

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Partenership

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hello seems like in junior category, the point with the richard mille partenership is false because it has been reported multiple times (by other medias and charles himseld) that they started sponsoring him in 2011 (which is logical because it came with todt)

Here are some source https://x.com/i/status/1363920590382522370 (tweet where charles talk about them being with him since 2011)

https://charlesleclerc.com/fr/partenariats/ (charles site where it is said they sponsor him since 2014)

https://www.automobiliferrari.com/magazine/hublot-replaced-by-richard-mille-as-official-ferrari-sponsor-for-2021#:~:text=Both%20brands%20already%20had%20previous,on%20many%20occasions%20since%20then. (another article mentionning 2011) https://x.com/i/status/1451549413789294595

You also see appear the richard mille logo only by 2011 on leclerc suit. The official site only mention a decade collaboration, some site say 2011 and other who sourced the article your sourced say the 2009 despite charles himself saying 2011. Osme002 (talk) 16:41, 9 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

sorry for the spam but here is an other interview to one of the head of
https://www.charles-leclerc-fans.com/2017/10/23/interview-avec-tim-malachard-le-directeur-marketing-de-richard-mille/ Osme002 (talk) 16:47, 9 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
One of the head of richard mille* Osme002 (talk) 17:29, 9 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Autosport said 2009, The Times said 2009, Grand Prix Watches said 2009... Random blogs and tweets are not reliable sources. MB2437 13:28, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
????? It's not random it's litteraly coming from charles himself and the blog (if you just take your time of checking it) is a blog authorized by charles own management when he was karting and they interviewed someone from richard mille who said so, so idk why you think you can't put that?? Autosport despite what you think can still be wrong in some of their information and people like you and other article follows blindly those article without checking further.
I also put an article which is a magazine like the ones you showed who mention 2011. So what is the truth? An article you don't want to change because it would mean admitting that even autosport (and all the other sources only relying on it for their own information) can be wrong or posts from charles himself saying something else? I can also shows you his instagram post where he say the same thing or is it still not "reliable enought"????
If you are not sure about the date since differents sources say different dates then just don't put this information it's that simple 👍 Osme002 (talk) 13:44, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
and if you are still doubting the blog, and just checked at least lnce you would see there is even a VIDEO of the interview! So idk what more reliable thigns you want when the driver say 2011 and the sponsor say 2011 too?? Osme002 (talk) 13:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
since one of the articles you mentionned sourced a reddit post I can do the same right?
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/lq8zkf/charles_leclerc_there_are_few_people_that/
No even a tweet but the reddit post where charles say 2011 Osme002 (talk) 14:01, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
See WP:SELFPUBLISHED and WP:ABOUTSELF. We ideally need an independent source to verify as there are several reliable sources saying it was 2009. MB2437 14:00, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
the problem is that do you know where that 2009 info comes from for your reliable source? Other sources are from years after that ones so what tell you they didn't just follow. I checked everywhere from richard miles itself or people quoting richard mille and it's 2021 articles talking about "a decades long partenership" which means 2011. Charles himself said 2011, you have an interview from one of the guy from richard miles saying 2011 so idk what more do you want.
I also checked the sources of one of the articles who mentionned and who themselves sourced their infos https://www.grandprixwatches.com/brand/richard-mille/
Not any sources they mention, mention 2009 so where does it comes from 🤷‍♀️ you can't really say it's reliable. And for me a psot from the sponsorized man himself is more reliable than a motosport article who is not always right themselves...
I don't want to argue more and tbh I think that if you are not sure about that then just don't mention the dates Osme002 (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
i know you want article but here is even a video posted by richard miles themselves where charles talk about them supporting him since 2011 so idk what to say more.
https://x.com/i/status/1451560135961231385 Osme002 (talk) 14:46, 11 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Interviews

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I wonder if Interviews might be a good addition to the article. Maybe not each one, but certain ones that stand out for some reason. I like the one he did for Les Rencontres Philosophiques de Monaco about speed and acceleration, but there are undoubtedly some good ones out there that I don't know about. Jeffgriffinsignal (talk) 17:43, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply