Talk:Alfred Ætheling
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 | On 21 April 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Alfred Aetheling to Alfred Ætheling. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Duke Robert?
editTwo sentences in the article currently read, "England was conquered by Canute of Denmark later that year, and Alfred and Edward returned to the court of their uncle, Duke Robert of Normandy. There is some evidence of a plan on the part of Duke Robert to invade England on his nephews' behalf."
The Duke of Normandy at the time was Richard II of Normandy. There was also Richard III of Normandy before Robert I of Normandy, who was not their uncle. They did have an uncle called Robert, but he was apparently Count of Evreux. This information has been in the article since the merge, and it was in that article for years. I can't check the source, because it's a book. McLerristarr | Mclay1 20:08, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Requested move 24 March 2020
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| It was proposed in this section that Ælfred Ætheling be renamed and moved to Alfred Aetheling.
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Ælfred Ætheling → Alfred Aetheling – No reason to use the Æ dipthong in the title. This also isn't the correct Old English name, as the thorn is not used, so the current title is in the middle between current and old English. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:12, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support. Absolutely agree with nom. The proposed name is most commonly used by sources. It also looks like the proposed name was the longstanding title of this article until about 2 weeks ago without discussion. BLAIXX 12:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Requested move 21 April 2025
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 18:01, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Alfred Aetheling → Alfred Ætheling – This article was previousy moved from Ælfred Ætheling to Alfred Aetheling. The change from Ælfred to Alfred was reasonable as the Old English Æ is almost never used in the name Alfred, for example in Alfred the Great. Æ is generally used otherwise by historians and on Wikipedia as in Æthelstan, Æthelflæd and Æthelred the Unready. The name is shown as Alfred Ætheling in the most authorative source, the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography at . Dudley Miles (talk) 16:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Johnbod (talk) 17:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The Oxford reference is compelling and Ngram also supports this. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support. I am only seeing ngram results coming in for Alfred Ætheling, and neither of Ælfred Ætheling or Alfred Aetheling, which suggests that the proposed title is correct. Tomiĉo (talk) 11:05, 24 April 2025 (UTC)